What picture will you have in your mind as you vote the Tories out on Thursday.

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Robert Jenrick painting out the Disney mural in asylum accommodation for unaccompanied children is mine.

I'd forgotten that. There's been so much.

I will vote Labour 100% (I work for the NHS for starters) but actually the picture in my mind will be Tony Blair & co after their win in 1997. I was at Uni and I remember how exciting it was, and how upbeat everyone felt, and now...I just don't have that same belief now that a change in government can solve much.

Some posters have real grief and anger certainly - others are playing on peoples' emotions with false facts.

When you read the article about Starmer being 'thrown out of a pub', the substance of it tells quite a different story to the one you're implying.

But that's usually the case - you rely on no one having the time or energy to read the countless links you spam all over MN so it doesn't matter that a high proportion of them either don't support your point or, fairly often, directly contradict it.

I really hope the Tories are blasted into oblivion on Thursday and you finally stop.

A lot of things to be fair but the Queen sat at her husband's funeral is a big symbol for me I know a lot of people did but we didn't see that.

IfImOnFire
When you read the article about Starmer being 'thrown out of a pub', the substance of it tells quite a different story to the one you're implying.

I was only implying that it was ok to travel to Chequers at the time.

I will think of how I took off on a Eurolines bus to Paris at the age of 16 and spent 6 months travelling and working my way around Europe with nary a care in the world. And then returned to Italy a couple of years later and went to art school, staying for 3 years. And look at bright, adventurous DS1 and know that he will never be able to do that.

I will also think of the support meeting we had for FOUR single mums from our tiny school, all of whom were facing eviction from their rented homes at the same time, and all of whom were desperately, fruitlessly searching for somewhere else to rent. There were a lot of tears.

IfImOnFire
it doesn't matter that a high proportion of them either don't support your point or, fairly often, directly contradict it.

I disagree on that claim most emphatically.

And I will also think of Rishi Sunak flying everywhere in helicopters while the planet burns. Amazing how someone so intelligent can be so stupid.

But he's so important!

And he knows what a shitshow the roads and trains are because his party has been in charge of them for 14 years.

I don't wish to derail this sincere and heartfelt thread. I wanted to make the point so that in the unlikely event that anyone on MN is still unfamiliar with your strategy of deflecting, distracting and derailing political threads they get a heads up that you post so many links to create the impression that your claims are evidenced when in fact they often don't support what you've said. Or, of course, you cherry pick misleading sections of text to paste into your posts sometimes too. I doubt anyone is falling for it anymore, or giving you any credibility though.

So much that has already been mentioned, plus this. I can’t believe it took several years for the public to realise that Boris couldn’t be trusted.

Do you remember Blair introducing uni fees as well at that time? Or have you just airbrushed it?

The public were idiotic. I believe at the time Bojo wouldn’t even say how many kids he had. And people trusted him above Cameron. Utter stupidity.

Boris Johnson saying in a pleading, plaintive tone "here are some scary cartoons, look them in the eyes, we can send the virus packing if we lock down long enough, hard enough, if we wear magic bits of cloth on our faces (to his aide: "quick, pass me mine, I forgot to put it on"), if we squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes, if we hang in there just a bit longer, hands face space, you can see your family at Easter, because it was inhumane to cancel Christmas, I was repeatedly assured that there were no parties in Downing Street, God is my witness, no wait, I am God..." etc.

All that infantilising crap.

As for "excitement" of "New New Labour", my reaction will be a sigh, and a feeling of "we've seen it all before".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/05/31/keir-starmer-private-jet-clean-energy-plan-launch-scotland/

Did you read what I actually wrote? Did you take in what I was actually saying?

Or did you just want to say something negative about Labour, regardless of whether it really made sense in the context?

you post so many links to create the impression that your claims are evidenced when in fact they often don't support what you've said

I disagree.

I don't wish to derail this sincere and heartfelt thread

To be fair - the op starts multiple threads - I doubt she is being sincere although obviously some posters are.

Universal Credit, which has made countless peoples lives harder and traps people in poverty. On purpose.
The teens parents not being allowed to be with their son as he died, I’m afraid I blame whichever NHS staff made that call and not Boris as such. Some of the jobsworth robots that emerged during the pandemic shocked me and made me realise exactly how ordinary people can end up causing untold pain for the sake of rules.

I will think about that bus and the £385million going to the NHS while we get back out fishing rights, about the smirking 6-week PM who couldn't see what she'd done wrong, said she'd like to come back as PM and some Tories supported her! About the woman who "cried with joy" about people being sent to Rwanda. About the jobs for the boys, with gongs given to their supporters (including a civil servant in her 20s rumoured to be BJ's DD) and ferry licences awarded to a company with no feries and people making a private fortune from PPE. JRM lounging in the Commons, about him hosting hunt meets at his estate. At least Labour have vowed to properly ban hunting. Despicable behaviour still going on in the countryside and the perps getting away with it. And don't get me started on HS 2b- they had the chance to ban it. Ignorant BJ saying that ancient woodland could be replaced. I don't know if Labour will be any better but at least they're not entitled and two-faced like this lot. Actually I don't hate Sunak but the rest are - yes - scum.

God yes.

The Brexit referendum was only supposed to get enough support to catapult Johnson and Gove into more power. They didn't think we'd actually vote to DO it

I'd take a bit of what we've seen before from Labour to be honest.

Currently don't about 250,000 of us die each year still waiting?

Thank you for this thread, OP. It's really angered me and inspired me in equal measures!

She looks so small.

I'll always remember that.

This was my plan