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General election 2024
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srailfonaidraug · 29/06/2024 23:03

PropertyManager · 29/06/2024 12:23

too far to the left is as dangerous as too far to the right - the country has real problems, immigration being one, and a tough stance and clear policy is the only thing that will sort it and other things out.

If reform's popularity causes the bigger parties to formulate, fair, but firm and enforceable policies, great.

This country’s direction of travel down the toilet is thanks to right wing policies and drift.

Nothing whatsoever to do with anything on the left. Nothing. Irrespective of persistent insistence otherwise by the chronically stupid, all while the faeces continues to flow into our waterways and out of the mouths of right wing political and media opportunists who ought to be receiving the same treatment as all the other criminals.

Try getting something right for once.

Alwaystired94 · 30/06/2024 11:02

EasternStandard · 29/06/2024 22:46

Who is defending them and ‘peppers threads’

I see you on threads telling women you don’t care every time

the poster doesn’t claim to ‘not care about women’ they just repeatedly disagree with you on anti trans rhetoric = women’s rights. like a large amount of women do.

women telling you they don’t believe that TW are the biggest danger to us doesn’t mean we don’t care about women, we just acknowledge that it’s not the biggest issue we face.

you claim to care about women’s rights yet where is your disdain for Farage and the far right misogynists he endorses? The Andrew Tates of the world are more of a danger to women than trans women.

EasternStandard · 30/06/2024 11:15

Alwaystired94 · 30/06/2024 11:02

the poster doesn’t claim to ‘not care about women’ they just repeatedly disagree with you on anti trans rhetoric = women’s rights. like a large amount of women do.

women telling you they don’t believe that TW are the biggest danger to us doesn’t mean we don’t care about women, we just acknowledge that it’s not the biggest issue we face.

you claim to care about women’s rights yet where is your disdain for Farage and the far right misogynists he endorses? The Andrew Tates of the world are more of a danger to women than trans women.

Women speaking up for sex based rights are not ‘anti trans’ as much as some try to undermine

I knew the far right would get stronger it’s no surprise here. I think it’ll get messier.

If people aren’t ready to look at what underpins it it’ll likely ramp up. I don’t need some bit of tv to know what’s happening or is likely.

I’m glad to have other options so easier to put that in place.

How the left and far right deal with next few years we’ll see

DuncinToffee · 30/06/2024 11:17

Looks like Tory and Reform are more alike than we might think

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1807335824230396037

Tory student group held black-tie dinner two weeks ago where members sang German marching song used by the Nazis in WW2

Warwick Uni Conservative Association sorry after dancing to “Erika” — used by SS and Wermacht and today white supremacists

bombastix · 30/06/2024 12:32

DuncinToffee · 30/06/2024 11:17

Looks like Tory and Reform are more alike than we might think

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1807335824230396037

Tory student group held black-tie dinner two weeks ago where members sang German marching song used by the Nazis in WW2

Warwick Uni Conservative Association sorry after dancing to “Erika” — used by SS and Wermacht and today white supremacists

Zero surprise; not exactly unknown for Tory student societies to play about with a spot of far right racism in order to counteract “political correctness”. Not the first, won’t be the last.

cupcaske123 · 30/06/2024 12:33

DuncinToffee · 30/06/2024 11:17

Looks like Tory and Reform are more alike than we might think

https://x.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1807335824230396037

Tory student group held black-tie dinner two weeks ago where members sang German marching song used by the Nazis in WW2

Warwick Uni Conservative Association sorry after dancing to “Erika” — used by SS and Wermacht and today white supremacists

Disaffected Tories are voting Reform, so there's no difference at all.

CassieMaddox · 30/06/2024 14:24

EasternStandard · 30/06/2024 11:15

Women speaking up for sex based rights are not ‘anti trans’ as much as some try to undermine

I knew the far right would get stronger it’s no surprise here. I think it’ll get messier.

If people aren’t ready to look at what underpins it it’ll likely ramp up. I don’t need some bit of tv to know what’s happening or is likely.

I’m glad to have other options so easier to put that in place.

How the left and far right deal with next few years we’ll see

Edited

What "underpins it" in a lot of cases is entitlement, selfishness and straight up racism/belief in white supremacy.

One can not change someone's entitled or supremacist beliefs by empathising with them. All that does is validate them so they cling more strongly to the belief.

The way to deal with it is to stick to facts and logic, try to get them thinking with an adult brain, not an angry toddler brain.

Some of the messaging from the SNP around immigration for example, is helpful because it gets people thinking about why immigration might be good and counters the scare mongering "invasion" and "we are full" narratives that other parties are playing on to ramp up fear and win votes.

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Alwaystired94 · 30/06/2024 15:46

EasternStandard · 30/06/2024 11:15

Women speaking up for sex based rights are not ‘anti trans’ as much as some try to undermine

I knew the far right would get stronger it’s no surprise here. I think it’ll get messier.

If people aren’t ready to look at what underpins it it’ll likely ramp up. I don’t need some bit of tv to know what’s happening or is likely.

I’m glad to have other options so easier to put that in place.

How the left and far right deal with next few years we’ll see

Edited

not all GC are anti trans i agree. but there is a vocal minority of GC who are transphobic. which is why it’s gotten so extreme from both sides.

CassieMaddox · 30/06/2024 17:43

Alwaystired94 · 30/06/2024 15:46

not all GC are anti trans i agree. but there is a vocal minority of GC who are transphobic. which is why it’s gotten so extreme from both sides.

Yep, agreed
The absolute pile on Janice Turner got for profiling Debbie Hayton in the times, when Turner has been so amazing on women's sex based rights (and women's rights in general) is a case in point.

OP posts:
Alwaystired94 · 30/06/2024 18:13

CassieMaddox · 30/06/2024 17:43

Yep, agreed
The absolute pile on Janice Turner got for profiling Debbie Hayton in the times, when Turner has been so amazing on women's sex based rights (and women's rights in general) is a case in point.

ans even GC women who disagree with flagrant hate get called handmaiden…

basically to that minority of TERFs unless you hate TW you’re not a real woman.

MadsConvey · 11/07/2024 09:26

The most laughable thing in all of this is that he’s picked a place like Clapton that was perfect for his agenda — uneducated, unemployed people who shout about immigrants “stealing jobs” and “scrounging off the system.” These people have never paid a penny of tax in their life, and I’d guarantee the immigrant is a damn sight more qualified. He doesn’t give two hoots about that area.

cupcaske123 · 11/07/2024 11:35

MadsConvey · 11/07/2024 09:26

The most laughable thing in all of this is that he’s picked a place like Clapton that was perfect for his agenda — uneducated, unemployed people who shout about immigrants “stealing jobs” and “scrounging off the system.” These people have never paid a penny of tax in their life, and I’d guarantee the immigrant is a damn sight more qualified. He doesn’t give two hoots about that area.

Clacton. If you're going to call people uneducated, at least get it right.

MadsConvey · 11/07/2024 11:36

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MadsConvey · 11/07/2024 12:10

cupcaske123 · 11/07/2024 11:35

Clacton. If you're going to call people uneducated, at least get it right.

You got me there. Autocorrect is a bitch, I’ll take that one on the chin.

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