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General election 2024

Incoming Labour supermajority

67 replies

SerendipityJane · 12/06/2024 10:08

According to no less than that the many people that go to make up Grant Shapps.

Not really sure you are supposed to say the quiet bit out loud mate.

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pointythings · 12/06/2024 18:54

AmelieTaylor · 12/06/2024 18:42

@pointythings

say what?

Are you closing your eyes & ears to the whole Dianne Abbott debacle??

Meh. I never said they were perfect - but they've come back to the centre ground from their era of Momentum Madness. The contrast with the Tories and their 500 families couldn't be more stark.

frankentall · 12/06/2024 18:56

LauraNorda · 12/06/2024 18:53

I think the Sunaks were rich before he entered politics. Most of it is his wifes.

The Blairs became millionaires on the back of policies that the government introduced. Bit of a stench there, if you ask me.

What Bairite policy made him a millionaire?

DramaLlamaBangBang · 12/06/2024 19:02

LauraNorda · 12/06/2024 18:53

I think the Sunaks were rich before he entered politics. Most of it is his wifes.

The Blairs became millionaires on the back of policies that the government introduced. Bit of a stench there, if you ask me.

Who became a millionnaire on the back of Labour policies? Euan Blair is a millionnaire on the back of the apprenticeship scheme, set up by the Tory government. A scheme set up to be so onerous and complex that people have to hire go betweens because they cant be dealing wit the stupid rules set up by this government.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/06/2024 19:05

LauraNorda · 12/06/2024 17:54

You're not old enough to remember the 70's, are you?

Indeed l am.

pointythings · 12/06/2024 19:13

You're not old enough to remember the 70's, are you?

The thing with this trope is that it just isn't a gotcha any more. The Tories have lost the older vote. Labour lead even in the over 70s now. So yes, there are plenty of older people who are not going to vote Tory - because they remember the 70s, but they also very much remember the past 14 years.

bombastix · 12/06/2024 19:16

FGS the 1970s! Half a century ago. At the time the Conservatives were pro Europe. Things change and mercifully so does the country.

SheilaFentiman · 12/06/2024 19:16

LauraNorda · 12/06/2024 18:53

I think the Sunaks were rich before he entered politics. Most of it is his wifes.

The Blairs became millionaires on the back of policies that the government introduced. Bit of a stench there, if you ask me.

My understanding is that Infosys haven’t done too badly out of the current government. Along with a bunch of Russians and mates of Matt Hancock.

As for stench - party gate? Barnard’s castle?

I’ll leave it there. Have a good evening.

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 12/06/2024 19:19

LauraNorda · 12/06/2024 17:54

You're not old enough to remember the 70's, are you?

I can and it wasn't as dysfunctional politically as now.

LlynTegid · 12/06/2024 19:26

I'm more wanting to see the Tories in third place, with more Lib Dem MPs. Looks unlikely but hopeful.

5byfive · 12/06/2024 19:37

A super majority could easily end up with the hard left ousting Starmer in the same way the Tories got rid of Boris.

This isn’t an opinion on whether that’s a bad thing.

LaPalmaLlama · 12/06/2024 20:10

5byfive · 12/06/2024 19:37

A super majority could easily end up with the hard left ousting Starmer in the same way the Tories got rid of Boris.

This isn’t an opinion on whether that’s a bad thing.

I actually see the likelihood as the other way- Starmer can afford to sideline his left wing and still pass legislation. On some predictions he could afford for 33% of MPs to rebel and still pass it. Conversely, ousting Starmer would be like killing the golden goose.

NorthUtsireSouthUtsire · 12/06/2024 20:42

I say BRING IT ON !!

Anything that gets rid of this corrupt bunch of self serving grifters is good in my book . I am voting Labour without a doubt despite being gender critical.. to me the MOST important thing is to GET THEM OUT !!

Cattery · 12/06/2024 20:51

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user1471453601 · 12/06/2024 21:15

@LaPalmaLlama not all supporters of a particular party want a massive majority. As is well documented in this sight, I'm a member of the Labour party, because I've said so many times

yes I want (for the country) to get a majority. But just take a look at what happened to the Tory party with a 80 seat majority. It destroyed party cohesion. They've ended up with six (really six 😁) splinter factions. I thought Momentum was bad, I don't want that and the country really needs this like a hole in the head.

I'll take a victory ,not because "my side" had won, but because I think the country needs it.

I'd never encourage anyone to vote anything other than Labour, unless they lived in a marginal (which means anyone who lives in a Tory seat where the majority is 25k Or less, and a green or lib dems is the one who is favourite to unseats them.)

But I also think that schapps is doing the "project fear" thing in reverse.with the ohh, don't give Labour a massive majority. To me it's just a damage limitation stunt.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 12/06/2024 23:11

Tom Watson says

This is a hoax. Labour needs one of the biggest electoral swings in history for a majority of one. If you want change, vote for it purposefully.

Gladanotthwrteamonesomething · 13/06/2024 05:34

AddersAtDawn · 12/06/2024 10:44

It's clear to me that the they are trying to scare people away from voting Labour by talking about how Labour will win and using terms like 'super majority' to make it sound ominous. And probably also trying to make potential Labour voters think it's not worth turning out, because it's already a 'done deal'.

A majority is a majority - something the Tories have had now for a while (and wasted). If this chart isn't a super majority I don't know what is!

Once a party has more MPs than all the others put together, they have little opposition unless its own MPs turn against it.

I agree.

This has been done before by The Sun newspaper years ago. Big Labour win and what it would mean. Ir didn't happen and The Tories won. When people assume a big win it brings out the Tories and some Labour don't bother voting since assume its done deal.

I actually think the Tories might scrape in again. There are lots of voters that believe scare stories in newspapers.

SerendipityJane · 13/06/2024 10:21

But just take a look at what happened to the Tory party with a 80 seat majority.

The Tory party broke itself on the wheel of Brexit. Nothing to do with their majority or otherwise.

Labour are not entering government with a populist wet pipe dream to pretend to deliver.

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