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General election 2024

What do you think are, or should be, traditional British values?

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BigPandaTinyDragon · 28/05/2024 20:38

Apparently Farage says too many young people (not hard to guess which ones he thinks) are growing up without or rejecting traditional British values.

While we know he’s an awful racist idiot, you only have to read a few threads on here to hear about antisocial and unpleasant behaviour that just didn’t seem to exist until recently (not just from young people though).

Is it just a case of every generation blames the one before? Or don’t believe everything you read? Or have these values, whatever they are, become less relevant?

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Geesejuggler · 02/06/2024 22:23

Dunno about British values beyond nonsensical Jingoism and nostalgia but human values I dream we could one day all demonstrate would be

Compassion
Integrity
Kindness
Fairness
Tolerance
Spirituality (NOT organised religious battiness, which it often gets confused with)
Learning from our mistakes
Responsibility
Stewardship of the Earth
Understanding what a bonkers idea money really is, let alone that this is how we measure people's worth.

I despair that humanity en masse will ever be able to achieve these though, we were watching an old episode of Star Trek set in 2024 yesterday and it was so sad that we've lost a world where the relative fairness and compassion could even be imagined, much less achieved. (The 2024 episode was surprisingly prescient, just about the only things missing were the Internet and the pandemic.)

bozzabollix · 02/06/2024 22:26

Playing fair and tolerance - both have absolutely proved not to be the case with both Brexit and the current government. It’s a real shame.

Sense of humour, not bragging or showing off. Politeness and manners.

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 02/06/2024 22:35

Sunnysummer24 · 02/06/2024 22:13

No but the orginal question asked what are “British Values” and asking what was is unique to Britian. Your reply allulled to other countries not sharing British values.

Sorry. Where does the OP say British values have to be uniquely British? My point is that they don’t.

stuckdownahole · 03/06/2024 10:47

I've worked abroad and I'm quite appreciative of British regard for fairness as a result.

I worked in a SE Asian country which is rich in natural resources and an emerging economy but has had problems with corrupt governance. There was an attitude there which I found quite depressing - if you get into a position of power and don't attempt to use that for your own personal gain, you are a fool. People generally had a much more opportunistic attitude.

I worked in a Gulf country where they were keen to have clean government but any personal relationship was routinely exploited. The ruling family, their decisions, and position in society were never to be questioned. People who did so openly could face long spells in prison.

The freedom of speech and the ability to mock that we have in Britain is a huge thing, and it's a well-established British value - Peter Cook mocked and impersonated the then PM Harold Macmillan, to his face, back in the early 60s. You wouldn't get away with that in most countries now, never mind 60 years ago.

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