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General election 2024

What do you think are, or should be, traditional British values?

54 replies

BigPandaTinyDragon · 28/05/2024 20:38

Apparently Farage says too many young people (not hard to guess which ones he thinks) are growing up without or rejecting traditional British values.

While we know he’s an awful racist idiot, you only have to read a few threads on here to hear about antisocial and unpleasant behaviour that just didn’t seem to exist until recently (not just from young people though).

Is it just a case of every generation blames the one before? Or don’t believe everything you read? Or have these values, whatever they are, become less relevant?

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MMAMPWGHAP · 28/05/2024 22:08

Being able to make a Victoria sponge?

seaweedhead · 28/05/2024 22:11

A sense of fairness. Whether that's good sportsmanship or paying your taxes.

WaitingfortheTardis · 28/05/2024 22:17

Kindness, resilience, tolerance, a love of knowledge and learning and, of course, tea drinking.

We do have a lot of problems in this country, but I do firmly believe there is still a lot of good that can flourish if nurtured. Like everything, this country needs a bit more love.

dizzydizzydizzy · 28/05/2024 22:18

Getting hammered and having a kebab on a Saturday night.

Cattenberg · 28/05/2024 22:24

I can’t think of a single British value. British culture - yes. Values shared with other countries - yes.

bombastix · 28/05/2024 22:31

Habeus corpus
Healthy skepticism of flag wavers

LlynTegid · 31/05/2024 22:12

Cricket.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 31/05/2024 22:21

I loathe the concept of British Values and the fact that we are (or were) supposed to promote this as an idea in schools. It's offensive and absurd. There is nothing specifically British about any of the supposed values. It implies that Brits all have these values (they don't) and that other nationalities don't.

pictoosh · 31/05/2024 22:22

Cattenberg · 28/05/2024 22:24

I can’t think of a single British value. British culture - yes. Values shared with other countries - yes.

Same here.
I suspect it's a nonsensical term.

MotherFeministWoman · 31/05/2024 22:37

Winning gold in the passive aggressive Olympics.

Northernnature · 31/05/2024 22:47

British values are Western values and mostly based on judaeo Christian values like equality (women, races etc) rule of law etc. which many other countries don't have. It is abit nonsensical to think you can teach them in schools, in the past this was not needed as we had a very cohesive society where most people had knowledge of the Bible, ten commandments, sermon on the Mount etc.

GHSP · 31/05/2024 22:52

Apologising when someone treads on your toes
Saying Thank You to the bus driver
Putting the divider behind your shopping once it’s on the conveyor belt
Learning country dancing in KS2
Putting the kettle on in the advert break
Politics avoiding the extremes
Competitive not-putting-the-heating-on when the weather turns
Supporting the losing side

LetTheCardsFallWhereTheyMay · 31/05/2024 22:54

I, like ProperTea, am really uncomfortable with the 'owning' of what is essentially universal values.
The 'British Values', as taught in schools, are sound, but by no means unique to British society.
I'd like to add something along the lines of 'the willingness to occasionally forego personal gain in favour of the greater good without making a massive stink about it'.

bombastix · 01/06/2024 08:33

LetTheCardsFallWhereTheyMay · 31/05/2024 22:54

I, like ProperTea, am really uncomfortable with the 'owning' of what is essentially universal values.
The 'British Values', as taught in schools, are sound, but by no means unique to British society.
I'd like to add something along the lines of 'the willingness to occasionally forego personal gain in favour of the greater good without making a massive stink about it'.

Will you tell the Conservative Party about this idea or shall I?

HermoineFairfax · 01/06/2024 09:28

I saw fair play and learning to queue in action recently - I was in a large hotel in Croatia which had all sorts of European nationalities at the buffet breakfast. They don't queue and wait their turn like the British. Fascinating to watch the cajoling and pushing from afar.

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 01/06/2024 14:56

pictoosh · 31/05/2024 22:22

Same here.
I suspect it's a nonsensical term.

Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?

Maddy70 · 01/06/2024 15:00

Tolerance
Inclusiveness
Kindness
Generosity
Queuing

Sunnysummer24 · 02/06/2024 09:04

CoalHouseDoor · 28/05/2024 21:34

Astonished pp can’t think of British values. Have you not been to another country?

The ones that made my mind up to choose to live here include:
tolerance
sense of humour (maybe not a value, but try living in a country where you’re forbidden from taking the Mickey out of the government)
fair play
religious tolerance (this might prove a negative)
live and let live

But these are shared by many countries.

zendeveloper · 02/06/2024 12:52

CoalHouseDoor · 28/05/2024 21:34

Astonished pp can’t think of British values. Have you not been to another country?

The ones that made my mind up to choose to live here include:
tolerance
sense of humour (maybe not a value, but try living in a country where you’re forbidden from taking the Mickey out of the government)
fair play
religious tolerance (this might prove a negative)
live and let live

As an immigrant, 100% this ^

sumnus · 02/06/2024 13:44

I think about this quite a bit, mainly because we have to promote them at work, partly because it wasn’t a Thing when I was growing up and partly because I work with a lot of immigrants and asylum seekers.

I having a growing concern about openly expressed homophobia and sexism and antagonism against people based on their religion or country of origin. None of this feels British to me, or representative of my city and local my communities.

A respect and sense of responsibility for animals and the environment. Us Brits really are quite sentimental about pets in comparison. I’m thinking anbout getting pets their vaccinations and neutering them. And management of household waste / not flytipping- I didn’t realise that was quite idiosyncratic to the British.

Respect for the law and an aversion to corruption- especially trading laws, employment law and health and safety.

Overthemenopause · 02/06/2024 18:58

Fairness
Equality
Trudging on through adversity
Welcoming to all comers
Sense of curiosity and discovery
Supportive of all

Overthemenopause · 02/06/2024 19:01

It seems to have become "cool" to be anti Britain these days. If the country was so awful and so unwelcoming why would so many people come to live and work here? Why aren't people who can't think of anything positive about the UK living elsewhere? It's lovely that this little cluster of islands is so diverse and welcoming and tolerant and enterprising.

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 02/06/2024 21:11

Sunnysummer24 · 02/06/2024 09:04

But these are shared by many countries.

But does that matter? If you wanted to define what you as an individual or you as a family value, then the fact that others value very similar things wouldn’t matter, would it?

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 02/06/2024 21:21

At best, and often in evidence, some common to all civilised countries, some ‘typically British’:

Tolerance
Empathy for the underdog
Wry stoicism
Understatement (unless very hot or very snowy weather expected)
Humour
Self effacing politeness
Passion for fairness, Distaste for corruption

Sunnysummer24 · 02/06/2024 22:13

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 02/06/2024 21:11

But does that matter? If you wanted to define what you as an individual or you as a family value, then the fact that others value very similar things wouldn’t matter, would it?

No but the orginal question asked what are “British Values” and asking what was is unique to Britian. Your reply allulled to other countries not sharing British values.