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Anyone else with a completely mixed‑up family tree?

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WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 08:08

Hi all. I’ve realised recently that my family tree is so tangled that even explaining it feels like doing a puzzle. For example, two of my mum’s uncles are actually younger than she is. Younger uncles! And their children — who technically count as a generation above me — are younger than I am too. One of them was born while I was revising for my final exams.
It always makes me laugh how impossible it is to keep the “right” generational order when real life does its own thing.
So I’m genuinely curious:
Does anyone here have this kind of mixed‑up generational situation in their own family? Or do you know anyone who does?
Younger uncles or aunts? Cousins who should be older but aren’t? Relatives who belong to a “higher” generation but go to nursery?
Would love to hear your stories — the stranger, the better!

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Latenightreader · 26/11/2025 08:14

No but a great aunt married her daughter's father in law, and there have been a few examples of someone marrying a sibling's ex. Pre WW2 this was usually because the spouse had died, but 1960s onwards it was post divorce. That's a very complicated portion of the tree to untangle!

ohtowinthelottery · 26/11/2025 08:17

I don't, but I remember being at school with 2 girls who were Auntie and Niece - the Auntie was a year younger. And that was in the 1970's.
I can think of a family on my street where the granddaughter is at Primary school with the daughter.

RedToothBrush · 26/11/2025 08:57

DHs great grandfather wasn't married to his great grandmother. She was married to his great grandfather's cousin. This meant her father in law was her husband's uncle.

She had three children with her husband. One of whom was raised by another uncle. The other two were abandoned and grew up in foster care. The husband then had five kids with another woman and she had three kids with the great grandfather. And then he eventually left her and had two more with someone else...

phantomofthepopera · 26/11/2025 09:12

My DF had a child very late in life - my half brother. He was two years below my DS in school, but was his uncle. My Dad was also married before he met my mum, and had two daughters - my half sisters. My eldest half sister was 40 when our youngest brother was born. She had her own children young, and I was an aunt when I was five and a great auntie to her grandson when I was 23.

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:29

That really is a complicated bit of family history! It must make drawing out that branch of the tree quite a challenge. Thanks for sharing — it’s fascinating how many different ways family lines can get tangled.

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WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:31

That’s exactly the kind of thing I meant! It’s so funny how these generational lines can get completely crossed.
The aunt being younger than the niece sounds so much like my own family situation.
And the granddaughter and daughter being in the same primary school class must confuse everyone on paper!
Thanks for sharing — it’s nice to know I’m not the only one with a very tangled family tree.

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WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:34

Wow, that really is a family tree with plot twists!
I had to read it twice to follow who was connected to who — it makes my own tangled family situation feel completely normal in comparison.
It’s amazing how many unexpected branches some families end up with.
Thanks so much for sharing — it definitely fits the “mixed‑up generations and relationships” theme of my thread!

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WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:36

This is exactly the sort of generational twist I was talking about!
Your son being in school with his own uncle must have raised a few eyebrows on forms and parents’ evenings.
And becoming an aunt at five — and then a great‑aunt in your early twenties — is such a perfect example of how wildly family timelines can overlap.
Thank you for sharing this — it definitely makes me feel my own mixed‑up tree is in good company!

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MannersAreAll · 26/11/2025 09:42

When I was Wed I always thought my grandads two best pals were his cousins, as they were the same age, but he was actually their uncle.
He was one of 17 siblings. two of his sisters who married young-ish were 22 and 20 years older than him so he had two nephews older than him, two in his class and a niece just a year younger.
That fascinated me when I learned about it.

The other twist on my tree was that my great-gran's Dad was married, had three children (her older half siblings) and then when his wife down her younger sister moved in to help with the children and he ended up married to her! They had six children, including my great gran, and so the half siblings were also cousins.

MannersAreAll · 26/11/2025 09:43

When I was wee that should say

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:44

Latenightreader · 26/11/2025 08:14

No but a great aunt married her daughter's father in law, and there have been a few examples of someone marrying a sibling's ex. Pre WW2 this was usually because the spouse had died, but 1960s onwards it was post divorce. That's a very complicated portion of the tree to untangle!

That really is a complicated bit of family history! It must make drawing out that branch of the tree quite a challenge. Thanks for sharing — it’s fascinating how many different ways family lines can get tangled.

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WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:46

ohtowinthelottery · 26/11/2025 08:17

I don't, but I remember being at school with 2 girls who were Auntie and Niece - the Auntie was a year younger. And that was in the 1970's.
I can think of a family on my street where the granddaughter is at Primary school with the daughter.

That’s exactly the kind of thing I meant! It’s so funny how these generational lines can get completely crossed.
The aunt being younger than the niece sounds so much like my own family situation.
And the granddaughter and daughter being in the same primary school class must confuse everyone on paper!
Thanks for sharing — it’s nice to know I’m not the only one with a very tangled family tree.

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Chazbots · 26/11/2025 09:47

It could be worse. There's a lot of inbreeding on my family tree.

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:47

RedToothBrush · 26/11/2025 08:57

DHs great grandfather wasn't married to his great grandmother. She was married to his great grandfather's cousin. This meant her father in law was her husband's uncle.

She had three children with her husband. One of whom was raised by another uncle. The other two were abandoned and grew up in foster care. The husband then had five kids with another woman and she had three kids with the great grandfather. And then he eventually left her and had two more with someone else...

Wow, that really is a family tree with plot twists!
I had to read it twice to follow who was connected to who — it makes my own tangled family situation feel completely normal in comparison.
It’s amazing how many unexpected branches some families end up with.
Thanks so much for sharing — it definitely fits the “mixed‑up generations and relationships” theme of my thread!

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WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:49

MannersAreAll · 26/11/2025 09:42

When I was Wed I always thought my grandads two best pals were his cousins, as they were the same age, but he was actually their uncle.
He was one of 17 siblings. two of his sisters who married young-ish were 22 and 20 years older than him so he had two nephews older than him, two in his class and a niece just a year younger.
That fascinated me when I learned about it.

The other twist on my tree was that my great-gran's Dad was married, had three children (her older half siblings) and then when his wife down her younger sister moved in to help with the children and he ended up married to her! They had six children, including my great gran, and so the half siblings were also cousins.

This is exactly the sort of generational twist I was talking about!
Your son being in school with his own uncle must have raised a few eyebrows on forms and parents’ evenings.
And becoming an aunt at five — and then a great‑aunt in your early twenties — is such a perfect example of how wildly family timelines can overlap.
Thank you for sharing this — it definitely makes me feel my own mixed‑up tree is in good company!

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MannersAreAll · 26/11/2025 09:50

There's also more than a few examples of "I cannot find the birth certificate for their child Mary, but I know she exists.... ahhhh she's actually their grandchild that they brought up...." moments on my tree as well.

Giggorata · 26/11/2025 09:53

As adoptee, with parents and siblings both birth and acquired, some of which had been adopted elsewhere, we described everyone as my parents, your parents, our parents, other sibling's parents.
We did the same for siblings: your sister, our brother, my sister, etc.

Then we have the step families…
Then we have the forrin in laws…

It makes for a family tree that needs a roll of wall paper to draw, as it’s so spread out. 🙂

MannersAreAll · 26/11/2025 09:53

This is exactly the sort of generational twist I was talking about!
Your son being in school with his own uncle must have raised a few eyebrows on forms and parents’ evenings

I think how much of an eyebrow it raised would depend on time and place.

My grandad was one of 17 so it really wasn't surprising that it happened given the age gaps. On that tree all the folks of his parents generation had an absolutely bundle of kids - families of 12, 14 and 16 weren't unusual so the chances of uncles/aunts and nieces/nephews being similarly aged would have been relatively common.

I think it's only now when it's more unusual to have huge age gaps that it would be really noticeable.

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:56

MannersAreAll · 26/11/2025 09:50

There's also more than a few examples of "I cannot find the birth certificate for their child Mary, but I know she exists.... ahhhh she's actually their grandchild that they brought up...." moments on my tree as well.

That’s such a classic family‑tree twist! So many “mystery children” turn out to be grandchildren raised by grandparents. Thanks for sharing — it fits the theme perfectly!

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LupinLou · 26/11/2025 09:57

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:46

That’s exactly the kind of thing I meant! It’s so funny how these generational lines can get completely crossed.
The aunt being younger than the niece sounds so much like my own family situation.
And the granddaughter and daughter being in the same primary school class must confuse everyone on paper!
Thanks for sharing — it’s nice to know I’m not the only one with a very tangled family tree.

This wasn't that unusual years ago, especially amongst Catholic families. I knew several children in my class who had aunts and uncles in the years below them. My Grandma had 8 children over the course of 25 years. My eldest cousins are around the same age as my youngest aunt.

phantomofthepopera · 26/11/2025 10:00

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 09:36

This is exactly the sort of generational twist I was talking about!
Your son being in school with his own uncle must have raised a few eyebrows on forms and parents’ evenings.
And becoming an aunt at five — and then a great‑aunt in your early twenties — is such a perfect example of how wildly family timelines can overlap.
Thank you for sharing this — it definitely makes me feel my own mixed‑up tree is in good company!

Thank you. I also forgot to mention that when I became a great-aunt, my younger brother wasn’t even born yet. So my sister’s grandson is older than his great-uncle! That really fries my brain!

Also a few times I’ve noticed in my more distant family tree there would be a couple who had a few children fairly young (early twenties) and then have a massive gap, and have another child 20 years later. I do wonder if they were just caught late in life, or if the child was actually an illegitimate grandchild that they raised as their own. I imagine that would have been not unusual for the time.

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 10:01

Giggorata · 26/11/2025 09:53

As adoptee, with parents and siblings both birth and acquired, some of which had been adopted elsewhere, we described everyone as my parents, your parents, our parents, other sibling's parents.
We did the same for siblings: your sister, our brother, my sister, etc.

Then we have the step families…
Then we have the forrin in laws…

It makes for a family tree that needs a roll of wall paper to draw, as it’s so spread out. 🙂

Wow, that’s an impressively tangled family tree! I can totally see why you’d need a whole roll of wallpaper for it.

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SinisterBumFacedCat · 26/11/2025 10:05

Yes I have to “Aunts” who are younger than me. My Great Grandmother came from a family of six, quite far apart in age. One of my Nans Uncle’s was only a few years older than her. Also my Mum had me in her teens, meaning one of her brothers is more like a brother than an Uncle to me, and I didn’t get any cousins until I hit 30. One of my younger Aunts has just had a baby, so I have a new cousin, and I’m in my 50’s. To make things even more complicated, my Great Great Uncle, and my Great Aunt married a sister and brother from another family.

WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 10:05

Chazbots · 26/11/2025 09:47

It could be worse. There's a lot of inbreeding on my family tree.

That must make your family history even more complicated to trace. It’s surprising how often that pops up in older family lines — thanks for sharing!

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WittyRubyPanda · 26/11/2025 10:10

SinisterBumFacedCat · 26/11/2025 10:05

Yes I have to “Aunts” who are younger than me. My Great Grandmother came from a family of six, quite far apart in age. One of my Nans Uncle’s was only a few years older than her. Also my Mum had me in her teens, meaning one of her brothers is more like a brother than an Uncle to me, and I didn’t get any cousins until I hit 30. One of my younger Aunts has just had a baby, so I have a new cousin, and I’m in my 50’s. To make things even more complicated, my Great Great Uncle, and my Great Aunt married a sister and brother from another family.

Wow, your family timeline is full of those brilliant generational overlaps! Aunts younger than you, cousins arriving in your 50s, and siblings marrying siblings — that’s exactly the kind of wonderfully tangled tree I was talking about. Thanks for sharing!

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