Can anyone read German?

[JenniferAlisonPhilipaSue]

There is a document hint on Ancestry that might pertain to my GGPs. It seems to be from Prussia but I don't speak, read or write German. Would anyone be able to translate it for me please? I don't want to post it here but could possibly send as a private message? Its a one page document. I can't put it into google translate as the text is very fancy written and its hard to make out the letters.
Thanks in anticipation!

Unfortunately my German probably isn't good enough. But if you're on Facebook, I'd recommend joining this group and posting there: m.facebook.com/groups/Germany.Prussia.AustroHungary.Denmark.Russia.Swiss/
There are some very helpful people on this group who could help you out.

You may still have trouble if it’s in an old cursive script. My great aunt (sadly now deceased) used to get a lot of work translating Sütterlin script into normal letters for museums and so forth. Quite a lot of the family documents and letters on one of my parents sides is practically illegible to me, even though I can read German fluently - because of the older handwriting style. www.lovablehistory.com/old-german-scripts/

Yes that's the kind of script it is :(

Oh, bad luck. I fear you need an expert, then. You could try the person on that website - it was a random Google hit to show you the script, but the comments underneath seem to suggest she/he might help.

Good luck!

Or here’s a potential professional, with reasonable fees. It won’t help you with the translation, though - only the transliteration into todays letters!
www.sandra-transkriptionen.de/en-gb

Or ask Reddit seems quite successful! (And someone would probably translate it for you too)
www.reddit.com/r/Kurrent/comments/ov6eh1/can_someone_translate_this_sütterlin/

I am a native German speaker, feel free to PM me, maybe I can help a bit (or not 😂)

Thanks @worriedparent12 I'll try sending it to you and if you are not able to help, I'll look at the other recommenddations above

dammit, it doesn't seem to let me attach images to PMs so I've put the images here in the hope someone can translate.. Thanks again @worriedparent12

I think the people mentioned are my GGPs not not entirely sure due to not speaking German!

Hi, I had a little look and it is very difficult to read due to the cursive writing.

I managed to understand some of it, and I think it is the official report of a registrar on a birth. Basically, it says something along the lines of "Today, the midwife Anna Besch/Böesch, born Gethge, reported that she witnessed Gertrud Frank, born Gerhardt, and Willi Frank, having a baby at 11 o'clock". It was signed by the midwife and the registrar.

Does that make any sense? Were your grandparents called Gertrud and Willi Frank?

There's a large part of it I can't understand, so maybe Reddit would be a good solution as someone has suggested.

Sorry, I just had another look, and I actually think this could be the report on a stillbirth.

I agree with this. It's very difficult to read the writing in the second picture but the third line seems to convey this meaning (to me it also looks like it says the word girl).

Yes agreed. That script is very difficult to read but I'll see if I can have a bash at deciphering it later.

yes that was their names.

They had a lot of children!

Is there a date for the birth or still birth?

My GM was one of the youngest, born late 1920s, so whether this relates to my GGPs depends on the dates in the document.

It came up as a possible document match on ancestry but even though the names match I'm not sure if its a different couple or not.

I don't think there is a date - although it might be in the part that I can't decipher. It says where the midwife lived, but I can't read the name of the place.

If someone cleverer than me can make out the name of the town/village and you know where your great grandparents lived, you might be able to narrow it down.

I don't know how ancestry.com works. Who would upload such a document? And where would they get it from?

Not unusual at that time to have a stillborn, my grandfather had a brother who was born dead with the cord around his neck. That leads me to my next question, was a stillborn child never mentioned in your family?

I agree with a previous poster, the baby was a girl. I couldn't read the word at first, but it says "Mädchen" (girl)

Looks like you’ve missed off the bit of the page with the date on, see another example attached (just a random search result), they’re usually at the top.

No stillbirth ever mentioned although a toddler daughter did die of scarlet fever iirc I will try to screenshot other parts of the document in case this gives a date and upload later today after work

I can make out the words "ein totes Maedchen" and the words before that are time and date, 11 o'clock in April but can't read the day, and the year ends in "undzwanzig" (and twenty), might be "neunzehnhundertundzwanzig". Would 1920 fit?

And this is why I always memorized my grandmother's Suetterlin shopping list.

"Am elften April"
Does the date 11th April 1920 make sense?

or maybe 1929

My gran had at least 2 sisters (that I know of) born in the 1920s and a brother born in the 1930s after quite a gap (don't know why), so the 20s do fit.

I think there were 7 or 9 siblings over all and they lived on a farm initially

I can't make out the place name at all, do you know which town that is? It looks like it ends in "...aue"
I'm almost entirely certain though that it says "tausendneunhunderneunundzwanzig" 1929

here's the top part of the document.

All three pictures will now have all the text, there's no further text

I think the town is in Poland, near the border with Germany, in what used to be Prussia

Oh, einundzwanzig 1921, not neunundzwanzig.
That's not an area I know well, I'm a Bavarian, but I'll have look around Google Maps.
At the end of the document, before the signatures it says something about four lines being written in the margins, unless I completely misread that. I wonder if there is something missing.