are there R4 cards for the new dsi at all

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we need one

badgers oyu need to google a bit.
thin end of wedge
anyway
i have NO dsi

I went round 'a friends' yesterday and copied 74 games on the this card gadget thing for dds DS that she's getting for her birthday.

The 'friend' told me you can them them for the DSI too but i don't know anyting about that

i have no dsi.

thanks for mentioning me though

I was referring to your attitude. Thought you'd come down on right side of law when people discuss such things or ask for them

But your 'got one for DN' comment and subsequent discussion does suggest you are procuring for illegal reasons

If you still have all the illegal, downloaded games on your computer can you transfer them onto a new R4i card?

TokenFemaleSanta , have you never copied a friend's CD?

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When I was a teenager I did borrow some CDs from friends and then copy them to tape.

Which is wrong.

However the damage was minimal. One friend would buy a CD and maybe 1 or 2 would copy it to tape. And to be frank those taped copies sucked compared to a CD, I'm pretty sure that everything I taped I then got around to buying and I certainly never taped a copy of my tapes for a friend.

What's happening today is different.

One person might buy a game and they then put it up on the internet. Thousands of people then download it. As it's a perfect copy there's no real incentive to buy the original. Those people then pass the game on to friends, who get a perfect copy too, and they in turn pass it on.

So one bought game might get into thousands and thousands of hands.

And to top it off it's often parents who get these devices and then download games for their children. What kind of example is that setting?

People I know who wouldn't dream of stealing an apple from a shop think nothing wrong in downloading dozens of games and sharing them with their children's friends parents too.

The damage today is significantly higher.

Right, so you can stop being morally superior and Holier Than Thou about it.

Because you copying a CD and someone copying a game are no different whatsoever - it is breaking the copyright.

or photocopying your arse?

not getting into the discussion of the games, just the card itself.

official r4 cards no longer exist, they are all clones, and all look very similar. you need the right software installed on it for that card to make it run. sometimes there is a web address on the box, if not it is trial and error. i found a site that listed loads in great detail, but can't remember what it was (it was through someone's sig on a support forum)

I think you own the copyright to your own arse but should not copy someone else's.

As said it was wrong.

I can't justify it.

I don't encourage it.

I certainly wouldn't get my kids involved in it.

Does doing something as a naive and self absorbed teenager mean that when you grow up and realise what you're doing you can't say "hey look, this is wrong, it's stealing, stop it."

Even then I taped perhaps a dozen albums in total and they never went any further than my stereo.

Still wrong and indefensible, but in a different league to copying dozens of games in a single day, passing them on to friends, setting that example to your children and claiming that it's doing nothing wrong.

Never copied a friend's CD.

I subscribe to Napster. Pay my music fees monthly. Therefore no need.

parents who buy these cards for their children and actively encourage such theft are no better than shoplifters who take their children with them. Same example setting.

Just a thought but don't the people who steal the games drive the prices up for honest folk?

Yes they do schockers. It is the price that honest society pays for ALL criminal acts

our kids have R4s for their DS's. However, we have only downloaded games onto them that we have bought - thus meaning we only take the one R4 card out of the house, so less chance of losing original games, and only one card to worry about not a pile of fiddly little games.

"claiming that it's doing nothing wrong."

Has anyone claimed it's doing nothing wrong?

"don't the people who steal the games drive the prices up for honest folk?"

Actually, I don't think that is true in this case. As far as I can see, the price of games hasn't increased whilst the use of downloads has increased dramatically over the last year. I think the price of games to start with was/is over inflated. And no, that is not me justifying anything, just making an observation.

There is absolutely no difference between copying a CD, buying fake designer goods or downloading a game. The scale is irrelevant. At no point have I or anyone else said that downloading games is doing nothing wrong.

"There is absolutely no difference between copying a CD, buying fake designer goods or downloading a game"

Exactly. Which is why you should never do ANY of these. And certainly not encourage your children to do so.

And I would add to your statement:

There is absolutely no difference between copying a CD, buying fake designer goods or downloading a game or stealing from a shop

All of the above is theft. Regardless of scale.

Which is why I was shocked that certain people on here - given their role in society - are condoning it.