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Beth Chatto gardens, this Saturday

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GrendelsMum · 20/04/2010 14:17

I'm planning to visit the Beth Chatto gardens this Saturday - if anyone else feels like going and meeting up for a cup of tea etc, let me know!

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taffetacat · 20/04/2010 16:33

Sadly can't as DH away this weekend and we are getting a kitten. I would love to hear about what you liked there - esp in the gravel garden.

Hope its a nice day.

isthatporridgeinyourzone · 20/04/2010 20:21

Count me in. What time are you planning to be there?

GrendelsMum · 21/04/2010 11:35

Taffetacat - sorry you can't come, but I like the reasoning (makes it sound as though you're sneaking the kitten!

What time would suit you, Porridge? I'm incoporating it in a shopping trip I need to do, so was basically thinking of arriving some time after 12. I could arrive later than this, but not really earlier.

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isthatporridgeinyourzone · 21/04/2010 12:20

Live in Norfolk so will probably do a morning trip, have a look, have lunch, have another look then head back. Will be coming with the family. How lovely. What about a cuppa at about 12.30 - I'll need to feed the hooligans delightful children?

GrendelsMum · 21/04/2010 19:17

Sounds perfect - meet in the cafe at 12.30?

Anyone else?

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Pannacotta · 21/04/2010 19:38

I'd love to come but not sure I can persuade DH and the DSs (one car family and they usually bag it first for a trip out while I stay at home gardening!), but will see what I can do.

Porridge I didnt know you were in Norfolk too, we live very near Norwich, how about you?

GrendelsMum · 21/04/2010 19:50

Well, maybe we can have a Norfolk garden meet up at some point? Whatsit Old Rectory?

Or I'm still totally up for Great Dixter later in the year - so possibly we could do some kind of East Anglia meet up and travel together?

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isthatporridgeinyourzone · 21/04/2010 20:33

ooh Pannacotta - another Norfolk girl! Near Aylsham. Which side are you?

Where are you GM?

East Ruston OV is v.interesting.

Pannacotta · 21/04/2010 20:58

Am not Norfolk born and bred though!!
We are v close to town, we bought our bathroom things from the place in Aylsham and the DSs like the train which goes from there too...
WIll keep you posted if I can make it on Saturday.
G'sMum you shoudl come this way and we can all go to East Ruston...

isthatporridgeinyourzone · 21/04/2010 21:56

Well, we must have a Norfolk visit then and Great Dixter!

GrendelsMum · 22/04/2010 20:33

I'm near Cambridge, so not too far from Norfolk, given the right incentive!

But yes, lets have a Norfolk visit and a Great Dixter visit. What's a good time for East Ruston?

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GrendelsMum · 23/04/2010 19:02

Right - I will be in the tea room at the Beth Chatto gardens at 12.30 tomorrow, and will be looking out for Porridge and family. I will be solo - I've got short dark hair and glasses. I feel I should say that I'll be wearing a pink chrysanthemum or somethin, but won't go that far - there can't be that many youngish women hanging around in the tea rooms.

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isthatporridgeinyourzone · 23/04/2010 20:51

Ok - I'll wander around asking any youngish women if they are Grendel's mother. You'll spot me, 2DS's and DH and probably hide. Look for someone shoulder length blondish hair with a harassed look.

GrendelsMum · 23/04/2010 21:51

I might hide now, just to see you wandering round accusing people of being a legendary monster.

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LadyBiscuit · 23/04/2010 21:53

Wish I were coming - still haven't been! But we have other plans this weekend. Please report back

GrendelsMum · 25/04/2010 10:52

Lovely to meet you, Porridge!

We had a great time and a full report with photos will be appearing shortly...

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Pannacotta · 25/04/2010 11:25

Lucky you. Lovely weather too, unlike today...

taffetacat · 25/04/2010 11:33

Looking forward to seeing the pics and hearing all about what you liked.

isthatporridgeinyourzone · 25/04/2010 12:06

Lovely to meet you too GM. And lovely to chat about plants. Impressed that you didn't run screaming from the DS's. Looking forward to the in depth report. Wished the rest of you had been there.

What's your kitten called Taffeta?

Where are we going next?

GrendelsMum · 26/04/2010 19:13

A small selection of photos are now on my profile - just showing the main areas of the garden and one or too good plants.

First of all, it was great fun to meet Porridge, who is a true plantswoman and very knowledgeable [impressed] BabyPorridge is an excellent garden visitor and PorridgeBoy was charmingly keen to take his mum on his own tour of the gardens, which featured ducks much more heavily than plants, until impressively kept otherwise occupied by MrPorridge . I enjoyed meeting them all very much. No-one in the cafe seemed too taken aback to hear two grown women addressing each other as 'Porridge' and 'Grendel', and we recognised each other instantly, so no creeping round saying 'hello, are you here to meet me?' was required.

I think it was a bit early to see the gravel garden at its best, compared to the photos in The Gravel Garden book - as you might see from the photo, there were pockets of excellent individual plants, but not that many plant combinations, which I always want to see. Looking particularly striking, though, were fritillaria persica (which I must get for my garden), anemones (not sure of species), euphorbias, and bergenias. Beth Chatto uses different varieties of bergenias widely, especially at the corners of beds, and they really did look very effective. We agreed that if Pannacotta was there, she might have to change her attitude to bergenias. In fact, Porridge nearly bought Pannacotta a particularly good bergenia...

The wood garden was looking absolutely terrific, though, with wonderful trilliums and the hellebores looking stunning (see photo). I also loved erythonium 'pagoda', with its lemon-yellow bells hanging down over the elegant foliage. The shade walk was also great, and more than ever I missed having a shaded area in my new garden.

Throughout the garden, there were amelanchier lamarckii. We came to the conclusion that this is not nearly as good a plant as people say - there's something about the off-white blossom and off-brown leaves that makes it look just like a 70s curtain my parents have. As Porridge said, it's like a not very good selection of prunus. Speaking of prunus, there was a smasher overhanging one of the ponds, that caught even PorridgeBoy's attention.

The damp gardens were also looking good, but I'd say that at this point, not quite as full of sustained interest as the stream garden in the Botanic Gardens at Cambridge, which are looking particularly dramatic at the moment. However, Beth Chatto certainly won out with a dramatic massed planting of crown imperials in a huge bed on the edge of the wood, which I stupidly didn't photograph.

Egging each other on, I came away with Erysimum scoparium to replace a couple of 'Bowles Mauve' which are entirely the wrong colour for the plants they're among. Annoyingly, just having bought seeds of bronze fennel, I saw a plant labelled as an improved variety, 'Smokey'. I shall make do with the ordinary bronze fennel. I bought the biennial giant fennel, ferrula communis, which I'd read about in Beth Chatto's Gravel Garden book - it puts up blooms 3m high in its second year, so this should be pretty dramatic. Despite Porridge's promptings, I stuck to one of those! Finally, I was delighted to see stachys 'Primrose Heron', a variety of stachys with stunning primrose yellow leaves, that I've been looking out for for a while. Very much looking forward to seeing that in the garden!

Sorry this has turned into such an essay, but it's a stunning garden, and a real lesson in 'right plant, right place' - I didn't see a single thing that looked unhappy or out of place.

Roll on the next trip!

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Pannacotta · 26/04/2010 21:19

Sounds great and am itching to see some pics GM, but I can't access your profile at the mo.
LOL at your Bergenia comments but I remain unconvinced.
Also I really like Amelanchier, think the blossom is very pretty and I like the leaf colour too, in summer and autumn....

Erythonium pagoda is also on my wish list.

Porridge am very impressed you can take your DCs to look at gardens, my DSs tend to run around like mad things then get tired/bored and winge loudly...

isthatporridgeinyourzone · 26/04/2010 21:39

Great report GM. That plant I couldn't remember and thought it was a pseudo something was a parahebe.

P - ha ha. GM was very tolerant. The elder runs around like a loon shouting "Mummee - look at this" or similiar. As for bergenias - I'll get you down to Beth Chatto's and you WILL be converted. I bought three . Mind you, GM went through the nursery like a dose of salts - her basket must have been fuller than mine.

GrendelsMum · 26/04/2010 21:51

Think I've fixed the profile, so photos available!

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taffetacat · 26/04/2010 22:09

What an amazing post, GM. Makes me think I am really not worthy to post on these threads, you guys really know your stuff. Shall lurk quietly and pop in with the odd silly question.

I, too, am impressed at porridge's DC. I have a small gravel path in my veg patch my DC get overexcited about, so goodness only knows what they would be like with a whole garden.

Thanks for taking the time to post and for the photos.

Kitten ( name undecided! ) is very cute. Confined indoors for 3 weeks until he's finished his jabs and then I have to protect my beds......

GrendelsMum · 28/04/2010 19:56

More flattering than true, Taffetacat! But I certainly learnt plenty going round with Porridge.

So, next trip - we thought about going to Great Dixter in late August, didn't we? So we could have a trip late June, perhaps?

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