Which roses do you have?

[PinkYarrow]

I have Desdemona and St Ethelburga (pictured) which I love.
I like lovely smelling roses and am planning on buying Charles Darwin (lemon coloured) Gabriel Oak (dark pink) and Tuscany, an old rose from the 16th century.

That's lovely. I saw a similar one called Ferdinand Pichard in Regents Park rose garden and really liked it.

I remember going to a garden centre as a child in the 70s and looking through a rose catalogue and Blue Moon being my favourite one in the book.

I love the last one with the pink edges

Happy Birthday for next week. I like both of mine from my first post. St E isn't David Austin but it smells gorgeous

I’d definitely try Vanessa Bell. Charles Darwin doesn’t bloom very well and as the booms fade they kind of go brown round the edges and the whole flower looks like crumpled up old paper. I was convinced I was going to love it, so was quite disappointed.

Takes a year or two to establish but then goes fast. It would do well on the cliff face but might need support - its forte is climbing trees.

I wouldn’t risk it on a smaller wall, nor Rambling Rector.

If you can’t provide support on the cliff face, you’d be better with a self-clinger like Virginia Creeper or Boston Ivy - no obvious flowers, but stunning in autumn.

I had a south-facing thirty foot wide wall with a chain link fence on top, backing onto an industrial park. Kiftsgate covered it in three years 🤗 I pruned it back to keep it tidy, in the autumn after flowering. That was in London so the soil was ordinary soil mixed with a bit of clay.

It was lovely.

When I moved I took a cutting which then covered my sister's garage in Suffolk, so it seems happy in different soils.

Mum had Kiftsgate on chalky soil. It was in a big garden, with trees, but if you only have a small space, don't touch ot. It's quite a thorny one, as I remember, too.

I had a south-facing thirty foot wide wall with a chain link fence on top, backing onto an industrial park. But how high was your wall and fence combination?

Behind my back fence is a concrete wall about 8 foot with a wooden fence on top belonging to a train station. I originally grew Virginia creeper up it but in winter it didn't look great when it lost its leaves. I then tried gold and green variegated ivy. (Not wild ivy which is invasive.) It looks nice all year round and the birds love hiding in it. A lot of it has lost the gold and gone plain green, but still nice.

@PinkYarrow the pinky yellow one is Peace. It was my dad's favourite. They come through as yellow and then turn pink.

It's beautiful

Cut & pasted from a note I keep:

💐🌹Rose List🌹💐

112 varieties (35 Austin) (including multiple, 150)

English Shrubs:

• Gentle Hermione 5x4 FS pink Back 2017
• Teasing Georgia 4x4 FS/PS yellow Back 2017
• Munstead Wood 3.5x3.5. FS red Back 2017
• Lady Emma Hamilton 3x3 FS orange Back 2017
• Boscobel 4x3.5 FS pink 2017
• Royal Jubilee 5x4.5 FS (left side) pink 2018
• Eglantyne 3.5x3 FS pink Back 2018
• The Ancient Mariner 4x4 FS/PS pink, shady 2018
• Corvedale 4.5x4.5 FS/PS pink, shady 2018 - obelisk
• *Graham Thomas 4x4 FS/PS yellow Back 2018
• Jude the Obscure 4x3.5 FS apricot 2018
• Wild Edric 5.5x4.5 FS/PS (left side) pink 2018
• * The Mayflower 3.5x3 FS/PS pink, shady 2018 - pot
• Desdemona 3.5x3.5. FS white 2018
• Olivia Rose Austin 4x3.5 FS/PS pink Back 2018 / 2020
• The Mill on the Floss 4.5 x 4 pink, shady 2020 - obelisk
• Thomas à Becket 4.5 x 4.5 red 2020 - obelisk
• Dame Judi Dench 3.5 x 4 peachy orange shady 2020 - obelisk
• Golden Celebration 4 x 4 yellow 2020 - obelisk
• Buttercup 4.5 x 4 yellow shady 2020 - obelisk
• Gabriel Oak 4 x 4 fuchsia FS 2020 - pot
• Eustacia Vye 4 x 3 pink/apricot shady 2020 - pot
• Summer Song 4x4 orange-red 2020
• The Lark Ascending 5x5 apricot shady 2020
• Princess Alexandra of Kent 4x4 bright pink shady 2020
• Sharifa Asma 4x3 light pink 2020
• Lady of Shalott 4 x 4 orange shady 2021
• Emily Bronte 4 x 3.5 pink apricot shady 2021
• Vanessa Bell pale yellow 2021
• Princess Anne Standard 2021
• Tranquility Standard 2021
• Bring Me Sunshine 2022
• Kew Gardens 2022

Old Roses:

• Ferdinand Pichard 4x4 FS pink striped pallets 2019
• Boule de Neige 5x3 FS white pallets 2019
• Reine Victoria 5x3 FS pink Back 2019 - obelisk
• Louise Odier 5x4 FS pink Back 2019 - obelisk
• Comte de Chambord 4x3 FS pink 2018 - front middle near Desdemona etc
• *Mme Isaac Pereire 5x4 FS pink Back 2018
• Charles de Mills 5x4 magenta, shady 2020 - front pallets
• Mutabilis 5x5 multi coloured 2020
• Mme Hardy 2021 - back
• Belle de Crecy 2021 - back
• Ispahan 2021 to right of Tour de Malakoff next to Royal Jubilee along hedge #1 rose hedge
• Indigo 2021 - near arch by hybrid tea rose
• Reine des Violettes 2021 HP - next to ispahan - #2 in hedge row
• Queen of Denmark 2021 A - #3 rose hedge
• Eclair 2021 HP - back
• Bourbon Queen 2022 - #4 rose hedge
• Honorine de Brabant 2021 - ?
• Mutabilis 2021 - behind pond
• Mme Antoine Mar 2021 - behind pond
• Tour de Malakoff 2022 - first in front of big rose row by hedge towards driveway

Floribunda:

• *Well Being 4.5x4 FS yellow/pink Back 2018 - pot
• Claire Marshall 2.5 x 2.25 FS/PS pink Back 2018 - pot
• Fetzer Syrah Rosê 4x3 FS/PS red 2018
• White Fox 2.5x2.5 FS/PS white Back 2018 - pot
• Fragrant Delight 3 x 3 coppery orange/salmon 2020 - pot
• Belle de Jour / Chateau de Cheverny 4 x 3 yellow 2021

• Sweet Honey 3 x 2.5 apricot 2021
• Lovely Parfuma 3 x 2 pink 2021 aka Rosengräfin Marie Henriette aka Summer Romance - Kordes, ADR in 2015
• Absolutely Fabulous aka Julia Child, 3 x 2 yellow 2021
• As Good As It Gets 3 x 1.5 dark pink 2021
• La Rose de Molinard 2022

Hybrid Tea:

• Double Delight 4x3 FS pink/white Back 2018
• Alexander 5x3 FS orange Back 2018
• Hanne red pink 2019
• Whiskey Mac Apricot 2019
• Wendy Cussons pink 2019
• Just Joey apricot 2019
• Deep Secret red 2019
• Red Perfumella red 2019
• Fragrant Cloud 3x2 vermillion FS 2020 - pot
• Velvet Fragrance 5x3 red 2020
• Royal Parfuma 3 x 2 dark reddish purple 2021 aka Gräfin Diana aka Comtesse Diana by Kordes, ADR 2006, Paris fragrance award
• Pure Poetry aka Johann Wolfgang von Goethe by Tantau, 2.5 x 1.5 magenta 2021
• Aphrodite 3 x 2.5 pink 2021 Tantau?
• Chandos Beauty
• Margaret Merril
• Twilight Zone 2021
• Duchess of Cornwall 2021
• Global Beauty 2021
• Peace 2022
• Fragonard 2022
• Rose Synactif by Shiseido® 2022
• Timeless Cream 2022
• Twice in a Blue Moon 2022

Misc:

• Ballerina (Polyantha) 4x4 shady 2019
• Buff Beauty (Shrub) 5x5, shady 2020
• Prosperity 6 x 4 white 2021
• Cornelia 5 x 5 peachy pink shady 2021
• St. Ethelburga 2021 4x3 pink
• Sandringham 2021 5x4 dark pink #5 rose hedge
• Pearl of St. Luke’s 2021 4x3 light pink
• Nozomi 2022
• Lavender Lassie 2022

Climbing:

• Gertrude Jekyll 8 FS pink Back 2018
• Étoile de Hollande 20. FS red Back 2018 / 2019
• Crown Princess Margareta 12 FS/PS orange Back 2018
• Mme. Alfred Carriére 25 FS/PS white Back 2018
• The Wedgewood Rose 10’ light pink 2020 - side arch left side
• Wollerton Old Hall 12’ cream shady 2020 - back arch right side
• Zephirine Drouhin dark pink 15’ 2020 - side arch right side
• Wonderful World orange 6.5’ 2020 - left back arch
• Sweet Syrie pinky peach 2021
• Ginger Syllabub apricot 2021
• Souvenir du Docteur Jamain red plum 2021
• The Generous Gardener pink 2021
• Lady Hillingdon 2022
• Mary Delany 2022
• Gloire de Dijon 2022
• Alchymist 2022
• Alister Stella Gray 2022
• Awakening 2022

Rambling:

• Albertine 20 FS/PS pink Back 2019 20’
• Goldfinch 15 FS yellow Back 2019 15’
• Albéric Barbier 2020 - side back arch 25’
• Wedding Day 2021 35’
• Francis E Lester 2021 20’
• Princess Louise 2021 20’ - left side of path, nearest gate
• Paul Noël 2021 20’ - left side between easlea and wedding day
• Easlea's Golden Rambler 2021 18’ - far left near drive
• Gardenia 2021 20’ - right side of gate
• The Garland 2021 15’ - right side near house
• Paul's Himalayan Musk 2021
• City of York 2021
• Baltimore Belle 2022

Wow your garden must look and smell wonderful. St Ethelburga is lovely isn't it. When I'm hanging out washing the scent wafts around me.

Has anyone visited the David Austin garden centre? It looks lovely with all the different rose gardens. I'd love to visit.

It’s worth a visit @PinkYarrow They also run rose pruning courses in the winter if you get really rose obsessed.
Here are a couple of my favourite both apricot coloured. Buff Beauty with clusters of smaller flowers on a medium sized spreading bush and Roald Dahl which is a more compact plant that keeps on flowering.

Yes, I’ve got a buff beauty. Struggling a bit in the shade now the trees have got larger.

I only have one ( my gp's had hundreds and I hated getting prickled, so never liked them

Then I smelt one on an open garden so had to have it

I didn't have any until a few years ago - now I'm obsessed!

David Austen Roses I have:
Tottering By Gently
Mary Delaney
Molineux
The Generous Gardener
The Lady Gardener
Kew Gardens
Eustacia Vye
Virginia

Hardness Roses I have:
The Peacekeeper
The Simple Life
Bridge of Sighs
Ginger Syllabub
Garden Glory x2

Other roses:
Rose of Hope
Spicy Parfuma
Dog Rose
Ruby Rambler
Little Rambler
Unknown Yellow
Unknown red

vigorous ramblers (ie up in tree tops)

Kiftsgate
Alistair Stella Gray
Bobbie James
one with big clumps of tiny pink roses, who name I forget

old roses

Buff Beauty
Old Pink Moss
Rosa Mundi (red and white stripes)
Queen Elizabeth (not my choice)
a red rose, possibly Frensham

species and near-species

a pink R. spinosissima
Sweet briar, Lady Penzance I think
R rugosa white
R rugosa pink
R rugosa dark pink
a wild rose, dark pink
R. moyesii (for its hips)
R. glauca
R. sericea pteracantha (for its big flat translucent red thorns)

A clutch of wild roses in pots, of several species, grown for fun from a packet of mixed seed.

Not a bad list for someone with no particular interest in roses, and with an almost totally shaded garden 😀

Thank you! I will have to put something on the cliff face… I planted Rambling Rector this year on a different wall, also with plenty of space to do its thing. Only a single blossom, though…

For those of you who have both Gabriel oak and Emma Bridgewater, which is your favourite from the two?

I have saved a few posts from this thread and looking forward to getting started on my rose journey!

It took several years before my Kiftsgate bloomed, by which time it had consumed a hawthorn, several hollies, most of a lime tree and part of my neighbour’s garden. So have patience!

My neighbour had a Rambling Rector cascading down an old apple tree. In summer both rose and apple were hidden by the mass of flowers

We have Iceberg, Queen Elizabeth and City of Leeds, none of which have done very well this year.

I've been to the garden centre and my lovely best friend bought me Gabriel Oak rose and a lovely white dwarf rhododendron for my enormous birthday next week.

I bought a beautiful huge blue ceramic pot that was half price for the rose to go in on the patio.😁

Can't wait for next summer to see the flowers on the rose.