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Please help me choose 6 new roses!

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MissPettigrewIsWFH · 02/10/2023 10:03

I'm about to have a deep new bed and I'd like to add 6 new shrub roses in circular plant supports. The site is shady in the morning but full sun from about 1030. I'd like the plants to be healthy, fragrant, long flowering and easy. I've already got (and love) Emily Bronte and Gertrude Jekyll - what else would you suggest?

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Fleur405 · 02/10/2023 10:06

I have a spot that is very sunny in the morning but shady in the afternoon. We planted Princess Anne there about 3 years ago and they have been doing very well and flower right through from April or May until later October.

MissPettigrewIsWFH · 02/10/2023 11:31

Anne looks lovely! Keen for more ideas too.

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Edwardandtubbs · 02/10/2023 11:33

If you like peach/oranges then Roald Dahl is beautiful, seems to be robust and flowers well.

DuploTrain · 02/10/2023 11:37

I love Desdemona. Not a particularly strong scent but very beautiful.

Are you looking for 6 different ones or are you going to repeat? I wish I had space in my garden for several of the same variety, I think it looks so striking.

MissPettigrewIsWFH · 02/10/2023 11:41

I'm undecided whether to go with repeating the same rose or a mix.... I did look at Sceptered Isle and Jacqueline De Pre too and am v keen on a scent as there will be a seating area in the middle.

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BitOutOfPractice · 02/10/2023 11:43

I’m a sentimental fool so I’d choose them for their names. I know. Ridiculous. But it’s served me well. The last two I picked were for my football team and political Hero. They were both lovely.

DuploTrain · 02/10/2023 11:44

Sceptered Isle is very nice too. I didn’t recommend it as I have one and it seems slightly less hardy/vigorous than others but to be fair I have planted it in a bit of a shady spot. I’ve never noticed it having a scent though.

Desdemona’s scent is definitely present, light and citrusy - just not as powerful as Gertrude Jekyll.

MissPettigrewIsWFH · 02/10/2023 11:47

I've never gone for peach but Roald Dahl is very pretty, and I'm quite take with Desdemona too!

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Newgolddream70 · 02/10/2023 11:50

A Royal William is a red rose and it smells absolutely gorgeous. I had one at my old house which my Mum gave to me. I moved to a flat when I got divorced and couldn't take the rose with me - absolutely gutted!

APurpleSquirrel · 02/10/2023 11:55

I've recently bought Tottering Along Nicely - it's a more unusual rose (looks a bit like an anemone) but is good for pollinators & meant to be easy to grow, healthy etc

APurpleSquirrel · 02/10/2023 11:56

Sorry that should be Tottering By Gently - got it half price too.

Please help me choose 6 new roses!
delphi13 · 02/10/2023 12:00

I run a rose group on Facebook called 'growing roses in the UK' where members love to recommend roses so you are welcome to join that.

My suggestions for shade tolerant (all roses still need about 4-6 hours of sun really) are:
Olivia rose Austin, Princess Alexandra of Kent, Dannahue, Neptune, Eustacia Vye, Blue for You, Domaine De Chantilly, hot Chocolate, Augusta Louise/Rachel and Charming Piano

Fleur405 · 02/10/2023 12:02

We also have a Roald Dahl - has beautiful blooms but we have it in a sunny spot.

MissPettigrewIsWFH · 02/10/2023 12:02

@Delphi13 - thank you! This is why I love Mumsnet...!

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MissPettigrewIsWFH · 02/10/2023 11:47

I've never gone for peach but Roald Dahl is very pretty, and I'm quite take with Desdemona too!

Roald Dahl is less peach more bright orange or if very sunny it goes yellow. It's a prolific rose so good for shade but it has little scent and the blooms are on the small side.

delphi13 · 02/10/2023 12:08

Sorry just re read your post, you don't really need shade tolerant ones although the roses I suggested do well in sun too.

Have a look at the style roses website. They do really fantastic quality roses. My top performers this year were

Domaine de Chantilly
Olivia
Neptune
The Shepherdess
Geoff Hamilton
Boscobel
Chippendale
Rhapsody in Blue
Blue for you

HomeCountyHome · 02/10/2023 12:08

If you are open to old roses, which only flower once a season, then Madame Hardy is my perfect rose. Also Félicité Parmentier (though she is very spiky). If you can get a Munstead Wood (David Austin has inexplicably 'retired' it), it's a gorgeous dark rose.

Edwardandtubbs · 02/10/2023 14:48

delphi13 · 02/10/2023 12:02

Roald Dahl is less peach more bright orange or if very sunny it goes yellow. It's a prolific rose so good for shade but it has little scent and the blooms are on the small side.

A neighbour had an entire border of it which I walked past twice a day all summer on the school run and it most certainly wasn’t bright orange. I in fact said peach/orange and the official colour is ‘apricot’. The David Austin website describes the blooms as medium sized. And states that it has a lovely fruity tea scent. But apart from all that you’re spot on.

Lavenderosa · 02/10/2023 15:02

I find David Austin Roses the best and I also have Gertrude Jekyll and Emily Bronte. I always go for scent and my other favourite shrub roses are Royal Jubilee, Gentle Hermione, Vanessa Bell, Desdemona and Gabriel Oak.

ButterMyParsnip · 02/10/2023 15:09

I love royal jubilee because it looks like a peony. Though I'd be tempted to get another Gertrude or two if I were you.

If you fancy something different, Ferdinand Pichard is a lovely old shrub rose with flowers that look painted (see pic). It's very spiky and prone to blackspot but my DH insists I need to buy at least one for our new garden. I only got a couple of flowers from it in year one but by year two it had three flushes with lots of flowers. The scent is good too.

Please help me choose 6 new roses!
CherryMaple · 02/10/2023 15:36

David Austin’s Eustacia Vye. We have really poor sandy soil, and it’s grown brilliantly. It’s a super-healthy rose with beautiful flowers and lovely scent.

David Austin currently has an offer of 15% off bare root roses.

VenusClapTrap · 02/10/2023 19:28

My best performing roses are without doubt Lady of Shallot. I have a group of three and they never stop blooming.

Also excellent are Jacqueline du Pre, Royal Jubilee and Wollerton Old Hall.

I love Hot Chocolate for its beautifully shaped flowers in a gorgeous colour, but it’s not as prolific at flowering as the ones above.

smartiesnskittles · 02/10/2023 19:30

My best performing are Eustasia Vye, the Lady Gardener and Thomas a Becket.

I completely love the colour of Gabriel Oak, Lady of Shallot and Boscobel, and they're fairly healthy too.

Any colours in particular?

MissPettigrewIsWFH · 02/10/2023 19:33

Ooh, now thinking of a new rosey area around the front that already has some rises scrambling over a wall, but I could extend with a colour theme to inc Roald Dahl, Lady of Shallot and Lady Gardener!

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DancerForMoney · 02/10/2023 19:40

David Austin have an online website, some good advice on there, plus Ben Hamilton Anderson gives some good rose reviews on YouTube and Instagram.
I think Princess Alexander of Kent is a good rose, repeats well, nice fragrance, l also like Olivia, Queen of Sweden, Young Lycidas, Wiildeve, and The Lark.Ascending.. Apparently their newer versions are healthier and more prolific, there's a lovely yellow one called Being Me Sunshine which is very popular.