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Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May: Alternative potting shed thread

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funnyperson · 10/05/2015 06:11

On the grounds that potting sheds should admit those of all cultures here is an alternative potting shed thread. Probably makeshift and not as posh as the other one. Definitely subversive and open to gardeners of all capabilities.

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Bearleigh · 05/06/2015 13:41

By 'eck shove, that's late! In the soft south, we have roses blooming.

funnyperson · 05/06/2015 15:19

It is raining here of course because I put the furniture out!
That said, it is warm and the roses are out! rhubarb and I went to Sissinghurst in June 2 years ago and the roses I bought were inspired by that visit: nuits de young, coopers burmese, sarah fisher and an antique pink rose which I planted in a pot with allium christophii. The scent is really lovely. I need to find out where best to place the pots so that the rose scent is in an enclosed space near the front door.

Does this mean autumn comes early too, oop north?

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shovetheholly · 05/06/2015 17:12

Bearleigh and funny - it's VERY strange, but I find that timescales are very different for different plants. I compare with my Dad, who is in Suffolk.

Everything starts later, which is frustrating! But it lingers for a much longer time. For example, I have a lot of allium 'Purple Sensation' out right now (as I'm sure many of you have!) alongside my last few daffs and bluebells. My alliums are probably about 7-10 days behind those in the south, but they will last longer into July because it is so bleedin' cold. Yet my Bramley apple tree is normally bang on the same time as my father's. I guess some plants are more 'triggered' by temperature and others perhaps by light?

Where you really notice it is in vegetable gardening. The soil warms up very slowly, so my Dad's plants are always way ahead of mine, to the point that I sometimes panic.

Autumn seems to be all over the place. Last year it was really, really warm around Halloween. I was still harvesting courgettes off some plants that I put in late, in mid July!! Shock What I have noticed is that it comes more harshly: the first frost is more likely to be a real stinker and will kill things if you are unprepared. Winters are much, much colder here than in Suffolk. We had lying snow for weeks last winter, whereas my parents didn't see any at all.

funny - I love the idea of all those roses. I do like the way that they plant them at Sissinghurst, in those amazing crowns.

funnyperson · 05/06/2015 19:31

My north facing shady back garden always flowers a lot later than the south facing gardens round here.

The secret of the Sissinghurst roses with their flowering boughs is in the way they train and bend the stems
www.sarahraven.com/articles/pruning_roses_-_the_sissinghurst_method.htm

I potted on my new roses and they survived the first winter in the porch and this autumn I will plant them out, having finally decided where they should go, though of course they flower better in pots in the south facing front!

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funnyperson · 05/06/2015 19:35

I'm also going to take rose cuttings while they are still disease free.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00kn0sn

but I'm going to make sure they are decently labelled!

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MyNightWithMaud · 05/06/2015 23:01

Your rose cutting is tantalisingly close to flowering, funnyperson, as is the mystery rose I bought at last week's open garden. I'm going to have a very rosy summer.

Do any of you have supports for your roses? My William Shakespeare has keeled over - obviously too top heavy - so now I'm wondering whether it needs something to hold it up. I've always fancied the metal supports for roses and peonies they sell at the shows.

Bearleigh · 05/06/2015 23:03

I have the Sissinghipurst rose arching on my Feurtanzen rose* - I haven't got enough hooks in the wall to tie it in so a long branch is curving down, and being held by another part of the rose, so I have some splendid shoots heading skywards. It's just come into flower and will now flower for 2 months - bliss.

*seems to be little-known in UK, but is a floribunda climber, deep crimson, medium sized flowers, and rather lovely though scentless. I got it through one of those 3 roses for £10 offers. Wouldn't have chosen it but actually now love it.

funnyperson · 06/06/2015 00:22

There are so many absolutely lovely roses, the best being the ones that thrive in your garden!

I agree about roses needing support, this year Munstead Wood is keeling over with the weight of flowers, and the supporting stems not quite yet woody enough.

I haven't got my head around plant supports as they seem so expensive. I don't want to get cheap useless ones but I don't want to spend £35 on them either!

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funnyperson · 06/06/2015 00:24

PS I got an absolutely beautiful red rose for £2 last year.

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Rhubarbgarden · 06/06/2015 07:31

Mmmm to the minty lemonade.

Love the naughty statue. I wanted some kind of statuey/urny focal point for my garden so made a trip to a couple of brocantes while we were in France, but the garden stuff was all too expensive. I found a lovely iron etagere, but dh was not persuadable that my burgeoning auricula collection needed it.

Rhubarbgarden · 06/06/2015 07:32

Lovely alley photo timtam.

Rhubarbgarden · 06/06/2015 07:33

We are at Centerparcs. A badger came and looked at us through the window last night. Smile

SugarPlumTree · 06/06/2015 07:40

When my Mother had to move last year she had a small metal obelisk that Graham Thomas is currently climbing but he is a climber and it was to get him to reach something else to hold onto. The Austin roses have a reputation for keeling over I think ? None of my shrub roses are supported at the moment, I think my William Shakespeare is ok , will check later . I do prune it fairly hard though.

I love roses and have been very lucky with local nursery who had the 4 bare root DA for a tenner then a whole load of potted ones for £3.50 earlier this year. Also my two Aldi cheapies look like they will flower this year in the rose cutting bed.

Am increasingly hacked off with Mr cut down my hedge neighbour, his new hobby being bonfires. Lovely afternoon yesterday with stench of bonfire. We were smoked out one evening and had to shut the windows, he's had 4 or 5 recently. Really want to complain but we're putting in planning for direct access from our house to drive and I don't want any neighbour objections. DS told me he had sneaked a peak through hedge and thought his garden is one of a man who will freak if a neighbours hedge comes over his hedge. So I shall be regularly feeding buddleia and hope when it reaches the top of fence it makes copious amounts of babies in his garden.

HapShawl · 06/06/2015 07:40

I am enjoying the rose chitchat. And lovely planting in the alley Timtam - wonderful to be able to have bee-attracting plants in a concreted area

On the subject of bees, I was denied any pottering in the garden last night by a swarm around our house. We think they were setting up home in the neighbour's chimney, but quite a few dropped through our chimney into the bedroom which was rather dramatic when I opened the door. I'm not scared of them and I know they're not dangerous when swarming (though the noise is something else!) but I wasn't prepared to run the gauntlet of hundreds of bees by the back door to get into the garden!

Rhubarbgarden · 06/06/2015 07:48

That must have been quite a sight, Hap!

I am also a hard pruner of roses, so I find I don't need to support them. Two got missed last autumn though (lack of time) and those are flopping badly.

SugarPlumTree · 06/06/2015 08:23

Goodness, that must have been something to see ! I missed the alley picture earlier, that looks lovely. I really love old brick and woukd love a house with it rather than painted render as currently have.

Just looked out of window and old Billy Shakespeare looks upright, however not in bloom at the moment.

MyNightWithMaud · 06/06/2015 10:36

Wow to badgers and bees!

I suspect I could have pruned William a bit harder - I tend to be a bit timid - but guess I'm just hankering after a nice bit of sculptural metal! I share your frustration, Rhubarb, that your DH wouldn't let you buy the etagere, but how would you have got it in the car? Ours is usually on the verge of bursting, when we drive to France. I did manage to smuggle home my upcycled jam pan and bucket, though.

MyNightWithMaud · 06/06/2015 10:38

Duh. Still forgot to congratulate TimTam on the alley planting. A friend has just tipped me off about an area around here that might benefit from something similar, so I need to start formulating a plan.

funnyperson · 06/06/2015 11:07

Just caught up on the alley picture: nice work! Cleaner by far than my patio!
I'm too selfish with my hobby to want to participate in a community project, though I have put child friendly gardens and open spaces into the national work plan for the Royal College through the committee I'm on. Dont know if it will be accepted and I then will need a national collaborative operational plan iyswim.

Wow to badger!

YY to ironmongery.
www.crocus.co.uk/product/_/pair-of-fan-supports/classid.2000025879/

crocus sale is on at their nursery today - all the plants grown for chelsea that didnt make it to the show

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funnyperson · 06/06/2015 11:30

Re Bees: I love watching the bees and butterflies do their thing.

However I think it possible to go slightly overboard

For example at the Chelsea flower show one of the show gardens had a bench underneath which was a bee/insect house thingy. In short, when sitting on the bench, bees and insects would have to fly past one's legs to get in and out of the bee house. EEew. Get me out of there quick. Especially in the summer if wearing shorts or a skirt. Even if they didn't sting or bite I wouldn't find sitting on that bench relaxing.

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HapShawl · 06/06/2015 11:33

I thought that funny person re the insect hotel benches

Rhubarbgarden · 06/06/2015 15:21

The etagere wouldn't have fitted in our car, however it would have fitted easily in the in-laws Volvo estate...

MyNightWithMaud · 06/06/2015 16:59

Oh yes. Our car is perfectly big enough for day to day use, but when we replace it I'm tempted to get an ever so slightly bigger one for bringing back my haual from plant auctions and brocantes.

Do you have any reclamation or architectural antique places near you, Rhubarb, that might have something that could be recycled as an etagere?

Rhubarbgarden · 06/06/2015 20:27

We do. But I'm catagorically not allowed near them at the moment as we are officially in austerity measures according to dh.

We are definitely getting an estate car next time. Although it's surprising how many trees one can cram into an average family hatchback when necessary.

Rhubarbgarden · 06/06/2015 20:35

(I realise that sitting in Centerparcs and typing about austerity is somewhat Hmm), but this Centerparcs trip was a hard won bargaining chip, let me assure you!)

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