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Thread 30 Covid Cohort, Mad March Hareing Towards Exams

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OrangeCinnamonCroissant · 13/03/2022 09:12

This is a thread for supporting all young people post GCSEs 2020, regardless of their educational setting. It is respectfully requested that all are supportive and helpful to each other. If you want to start a debate, e.g state vs private, please don't within this thread. Please also be sensitive when responding to threads about grades.

Some of us have been here since first thread back in yr10, some will be new. Everyone has been friendly and helpful in the past. Everyone is welcome. It is hoped this will continue.

Our DS/DD may go down various paths (such as employment, apprenticeships, higher ed) We have decided for anyone interested they will most likely find us within the Further Ed board.

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I've made this one a little bit earlier as things are so busy, at home and on thread, so please feel free to use up previous thread first Grin

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EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 12:05

Thanks all and interesting to see comments about Portsmouth as that's where I went, for a largely taught degree, in applied science, which suited me better than a more research-focussed one and indeed which led me straight into the career I have now. However my one regret is staying so close to home (which is analogous to the Winchester option for DS). @Delphigirl that's brilliant about DD, she has done well.

I have just been going back through the spec for the RAU course and see I have made a mistake, it isn't four years, it's three, composed of a two year foundation degree and a one year BSc Hons top-up. I think I have got muddled up in my head with the foundation options in DS's other choices which would all mean 4 years.

@crazycrofter - that's brilliant that your brother managed to complete his degree that way. We do hope that DS will be able to live independently, albeit with more support than other young adults. He has been in weekly boarding for y13 with a view to making transition to uni living easier. I have given him a fair amount of support through 6th form (academically) but I suspect I have reached my limits history-wise, whereas for the countryside management, which he is doing a BTEC in at the moment, I am better able to keep up (it's an area I have always had an interest in, having been an active conservation volunteer for many years plus the science side is easy for me).

So, the pluses for RAU are:

More contact hours, lots of practical work, study support sessions
Lower entry requirements therefore not out of depth academically, especially with countryside BTEC in the bag, offsets SENS a bit hopefully.
Lots of links with possible employers (statutory bodies, national charities, consultancies etc), inc short work placement.
Small setting, more like a school
Small course, get to know people better
Small town location (DS is not a big city type, Winchester would be OK but not Portsmouth in that respect).
Great support - they have said he can stay in halls throughout if he needs to, they provide buddies, proof-readers etc.
Only 10% of the assessment is by exam
Far better chance of playing for the hockey team in a small uni and the local club is just across the road.

Cons of RAU - it's not history.

Pros of gap year - grow up a bit, time to learn to drive, work experience, carry on with current hockey and football teams.

Cons of gap year - work options fairly limited round here, public transport not great etc, would be back at home full time, might lose the studying habit. Likely to be unsociable, DS is quiet and doesn't have many friends locally. Student finance thing.

Delphigirl · 21/03/2022 12:27

Sounds to me like you’ve got your answer in that list. RAU sounds perfect. He can keep his love of history going with reading, public lectures/MOOCS and later adult education. He doesn’t need to study it at university. No?

EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 12:32

Further to this, I see the RAU vs History question as being very much similar to BTEC vs A level/GCSE. Three of DS's 6 "GCSEs" are actually BTECs, as are 2 of his "A levels". This way of working really suits him. Furthermore, History is the ONLY academic subject he excels in, he got 5s in maths and English and is weak in science. His English is coming along in leaps and bounds now but is still some way from good enough for a largely essay based subject IMO. He has a fair amount of work experience in the countryside sector already which he has enjoyed plus we live in an area with opportunities aplenty (national park). It all adds up .

EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 12:36

Exactly @Delphigirl, he can pursue history by membership of local groups and organisations, self-study, TV documentaries, MOOCs. So many opportunities. I just need to sell it to him!

Delphigirl · 21/03/2022 12:36

Is it just DS who can’t see it? Can you quietly muse aloud about how wonderful it is that there are so many more opportunities to access great history lectures etc than there were in your day, and now with MOOCS and you tube videos of Harvard history professors etc it is possible to really explore a live of history in-depth without having to go to university and struggle through essays?

EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 12:38

Having said all of that, if you'd have asked me three years ago I would have still been saying "not sure if he's A level material". So to be where we are now is truly amazing, he has surpassed all expectations. Bless him.

EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 12:42

He has stars in his eyes from his history teacher, who is young and inspiring and went to Winchester.

Delphigirl · 21/03/2022 12:47

Your DS sounds lovely. We do have to be careful not to underestimate them, they mature and change a lot while at uni.
Maybe speak to the history teacher about your concerns and ask if he will have a chat to DS to help DS get to the decision that is right for him? Sounds like he would value his teacher’s guidance?

EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 12:50

I was thinking about asking his form tutor to do that, but the history one might be better, he is also great at the pastoral stuff. Good idea.

crazycrofter · 21/03/2022 13:01

You make a very convincing case for RAU, especially as it sounds totally different from the usual uni experience. History is a hard degree, all reading and extensive writing (I did it)! My year 11 ds really excels at History (predicted a 9, but looking very unlikely to get the needed 6 in either English..) and whilst logic would dictate he should do history A Level we (and he) are unsure, because it’s lots of reading that he really struggles with. So I can totally understand your concerns. I think what my brother struggled with was organisation and my mum was able to step in. But this was a large RG uni where he’d never have coped if he was living in. RAU sounds totally different

Cantonet · 21/03/2022 13:02

Could he join a History society at RAU?
I'm sure his love of History will stand him in good stead for the future.
What course has your Ds applied for at RAU? As you say he's come on such a long way and will most probably carry on developing well up to his late twenties ( thinking of the ADHD brain & it's much later development).

DS also loved History in year 9 & his teacher said he was brilliant in class , but then he did terribly in the exam, due to dyslexia & ADHD.
The advice then was to cultivate it as an interest only subject. But the tie in between History & the countryside can be pretty strong in your DS's case. Thinking of the National Trust etc.

EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 13:25

That's exactly it @Cantonet, the full title of the course is Environmental Conservation and Heritage Management, so there is indeed a crossover, NT is a really good example. He has ASD, dyspraxia and has an EHCP so does have significant SENs but has shown what can be achieved with the right support.

@crazycrofter it's hard isn't it? DD (y11 dyslexic) wants to do history too but struggles with English, I think she'll be OK but it is a worry.

Delphigirl · 21/03/2022 14:02

@EventuallyDelighted

I was thinking about asking his form tutor to do that, but the history one might be better, he is also great at the pastoral stuff. Good idea.
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EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 14:17

Dear History Teacher, please can you help me convince DS not to do a history degree 😂

Zebracat · 21/03/2022 16:12

@EventuallyDelighted , this has been s helpful to read. I think it’s right to stress the heritage management, so much exciting stuff going on now with rare breed grazing etc. I am sure that his interest in history will help him massively on the course, and there will be lots of opportunities to get to grips with the history and conservation of the countryside. Really fascinating area, and 1 that is becoming increasingly relevant. I think it’s also worth talking to him about his learning style and needs. He is so lucky to have you behind him..

Oblomov22 · 21/03/2022 19:46

I agree with Delphi's advice ED.
4 solid hours of driving to Durham, we are having Thai.

EwwSprouts · 21/03/2022 19:55

@Oblomov22 That sounds delicious. We're getting up an hour earlier than normal tomorrow to get there. DS has no clue about which accommodation he might prefer. I've told him never mind the food you need a 3/4 bed as you're tall.

ED good luck with the history teacher!

GoldenRuby · 21/03/2022 20:05

DD and I are on the 19:30 train from London to Durham - I couldn't face a 5 hour drive. I've no idea whether I will get to go in pot the taster lecture or college visits, so some of you may see me reading my kindle in a coffee shop somewhere!

Delphigirl · 21/03/2022 20:17

@GoldenRuby

DD and I are on the 19:30 train from London to Durham - I couldn't face a 5 hour drive. I've no idea whether I will get to go in pot the taster lecture or college visits, so some of you may see me reading my kindle in a coffee shop somewhere!
@goldenruby is it bad that I think a five hour drive followed by a solo read for hours in a coffee shop sounds like a heavenly holiday? Please promise me there will be cake. Then I will live vicariously through you. 😁
EwwSprouts · 21/03/2022 20:27

@GoldenRuby DS doesn't seem to know what parents are supposed to do either but thinks he did put plus one. From reading his emails last night I think we may be able to go round accommodation as it seems to be just mooch, apart from the UNESCO one which he didn't bother to book.

Wheresthebeach · 21/03/2022 20:38

Hope everyone has a great time at Durham.

Horace123 · 21/03/2022 20:44

Belated thanks to all for the congratulations on the Durham offer - I’m so sorry I’m so behind in replying.

I can’t believe it’s only just occurred to me but I think DS can actually wait to see how exams go before firming and insuring. He’s doing IB and his last exam is mid May. As far as I can tell applicants need to meet the 9 June UCAS deadline irrespective of what exams they are doing. Which seems unfair on the A level candidates.

crazycrofter · 21/03/2022 20:44

Enjoy Durham everyone! I’m feeling slightly relieved that all our uni visits are finally over, I think we started last June! Grin We were promised travel costs reimbursed by York and Southampton but so far there’s no sign of any money!

EventuallyDelighted · 21/03/2022 20:45

Thank you for indulging my thread takeover today, it has definitely helped me. I will keep you updated.

Hope Durham goes well tomorrow.

Cantonet · 21/03/2022 21:05

Good luck with Durham tomorrow. I don't envy anyone a 5 hour drive. I was exhausted after 5 hours driving yesterday between Aber. & Bangor & then home. But the killer was home to Aberystwyth along the precipitous hairpin wind-ey drive on Saturday morning. I have Vertigo & felt really ill & dizzy driving there. I'm sure that contributed to my dislike of Aberystwyth when I got there.