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Thread 29 - Covid Cohort - Whirlwinds and Waiting

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OrangeCinnamonCroissant · 23/02/2022 22:29

This is a thread for supporting all young people post GCSEs 2020, regardless of their educational setting. It is respectfully requested that all are supportive and helpful to each other. If you want to start a debate, e.g state vs private, please don't within this thread. Please also be sensitive when responding to threads about grades.

Some of us have been here since first thread back in yr10, some will be new. Everyone has been friendly and helpful in the past. Everyone is welcome. It is hoped this will continue.

Our DS/DD may go down various paths (such as employment, apprenticeships, higher ed) We have decided for anyone interested they will most likely find us within the Further Ed board.

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Horace123 · 02/03/2022 11:12

@ProggyMat Thanks. Checked and DS's offer holder day is in person (which he is very happy about) although people who can't make it can join some sessions online.

@KingscoteStaff Congrats to Jnr on the offer and fingers crossed for the others.

sofakingcool · 02/03/2022 12:57

@Heifer

Congrats *@KingscoteStaff*. Fingers crossed for Newcastle

Re Student Finance - has anyone applied yet? I asked DD if she wanted me to do it for her as she is revising etc and she did. So I completeted everythings, along with both mine & DHs finances etc. But on DDs application it is now saying She has actions to complete, send us your identify evidence, says to click on to enter passport details (which i did when completed the application yesterday). When I click on enter passport details it takes me to a page that is for adding files (digital copies). Has anyone applied yet and does the status say the same - just wondering if I need to wait a day or so for the passport details to be checked or something.

Oh do we need passport details? DS and I both have passports on their way, I might hold off doing it until they've arrived then
Shimy · 02/03/2022 13:42

@KingscoteStaff Congrats to your DD. What a wonderful way to end her mocks. Hope she hears from Newcastle soon as well.

icanbewhatiwant · 02/03/2022 14:24

I have sent ds's passport off for renewal. He's only been abroad to France with the school. But is thinking about going with friends in the summer so thought I'd get it done. Luckily I took a photo of the first page. So Ds can put his passport number in if need be. If I can get him to fill in the student finance forms. Ds messaged me from school with a screen shot from the Sussex accommodation page, it said to apply using the link sent via email in February. He told me he's not received a link. Then 10 mins later he forwarded me an email that clearly has the link. He hadn't seen the email. He doesn't usually look at emails. When I went on his pc that time he'd got 2000 unopened emails.

Heifer · 02/03/2022 14:53

@icanbewhatiwant - that is why I've got DDs log on details for her school email as she never reads them! (homework is also shown on her google).

@sofakingcool - Your DS will need his but not you.

So seems I've found out why we have the error message I mentioned before.. DD received an email saying could she post copy of birth certificate as the date of birth on her application doesn't match dob n passport - oh damn that would be me then, I must have done a typo!!! You can't access the info to amend it so now have to post off a copy. What a muppet I am.

icanbewhatiwant · 02/03/2022 15:06

@Heifer Ds doesn't share any passwords. He needed me to do something recently so told me his pc password. Stupidly I didn't write it down, I've forgotten it now. That's how I checked his ucas application and saw he had so many emails. He probably should have started a new email address for university. Ds1 and ds3 always want my help with stuff. But not him.

We were talking about hpv vaccines on here recently. Ds3 (year 8) came home from school yesterday after having a talk given at school. He says he's getting the hpv vaccine next week and that he wants it done. I'm glad it's being offered to boys and that he wants to have it. He had a covid vaccine talk a while back...but wasn't convinced to have one.

mummyinbeds · 02/03/2022 15:15

Hi, sorry I haven't posted for a while. I've been off work ill for the first time since DS gave me chickenpox when he was three. I don't really do illness so feeling a bit sorry for myself.
Just reading the posts about passports for the finance application. DS doesn't have one - it expired in 2020 and he hasn't renewed it as he hasn't needed to. Surely it isn't a requirement, not everyone has a passport do they?

sofakingcool · 02/03/2022 15:49

Uni accommodation booked 🥳🥳🎉

icanbewhatiwant · 02/03/2022 16:35

I've just been reading about the cost to study abroad as Ds wants to go abroad for year 3. He was thinking of America. It says they have to pay for extra insurance through the university, for North America insurance alone can be almost £3,000 ouch. Plus obviously accommodation, flights, living expenses etc. I'm not sure where Ds thinks all the money will come from. I have saved for the dc's for university, not sure how far the savings will go though. Ds1 hasn't needed his.

Heifer · 02/03/2022 16:36

@mummyinbeds

Hi, sorry I haven't posted for a while. I've been off work ill for the first time since DS gave me chickenpox when he was three. I don't really do illness so feeling a bit sorry for myself. Just reading the posts about passports for the finance application. DS doesn't have one - it expired in 2020 and he hasn't renewed it as he hasn't needed to. Surely it isn't a requirement, not everyone has a passport do they?
Hi Mummy, sorry to hear you're not well. Hope you get better soonest. Re passports - no you don't have to have 1 there are other ways to prove ID, birth cert etc it's just easier with a passport as no need to send anything in way of proof (unless you're like me an have typos)...
ealingwestmum · 02/03/2022 16:49

Look at all of us with no DC passports! I had to send DD’s for early renewal as the Canadian immigration needed to see validity for the full duration of the UG degree programme.

I am really loathing administration processes right now. I’m so pleased there are uni back ups she’s yet to hear from as I genuinely don’t think her study visa will be issued in time for start of term. And I’m bigging up Team UK, unless she wants to take over the paperwork filling.

Delphigirl · 02/03/2022 16:56

@icanbewhatiwant

I've just been reading about the cost to study abroad as Ds wants to go abroad for year 3. He was thinking of America. It says they have to pay for extra insurance through the university, for North America insurance alone can be almost £3,000 ouch. Plus obviously accommodation, flights, living expenses etc. I'm not sure where Ds thinks all the money will come from. I have saved for the dc's for university, not sure how far the savings will go though. Ds1 hasn't needed his.
Hi- DS1 is about to go to California and the health insurance the university offers is $2655 pa. That doesn’t give free healthcare except in the uni student health services - anywhere else you pay the first $500 and then have to pay 20% of any treatment up to a max of $7350 pa. Bearing in mind a simple appendectomy which would cost £5k privately in the UK would cost more like $80,000 in the US, it wouldn’t take much to reach that maximum. An ambulance ride and a broken limb might do it. So I’m going to see if it is possible to insure on better terms from here. The uni doesn’t require you to take their insurance, just that he be insured on coverage which is no worse than they offer.

Def something to think about, and a big part of the reason why people go to years abroad in Canada instead (health insurance more like $1500CDN pa and treatment after that pretty much free)

ealingwestmum · 02/03/2022 17:04

Hope you feel better soon Mummy

Oblomov22 · 02/03/2022 17:44

Sorry you've been Unwell Mummy.
Accommodation booked. Cool that is so cool.

Ds had started finance application . But Dh and I haven't received email to confirm salary yet.

Decorhate · 02/03/2022 17:56

It’s definitely easier to do with a UK passport (Dd only had an EU passport when she was applying & it added extra complications).

Does anyone know if it’s straightforward to get an adult passport if you’ve had a child’s one? Asking because Dd & Ds1 were over 16 getting their first UK passports so they were classed as applying for their first adult passports & had to go into London to be interviewed... I’m hoping ds2 won’t have to do that too if he already holds a child’s passport.

22Newnames · 02/03/2022 18:05

Those are eye watering costs for the US healthcare and insurance. An appendectomy is $80,000 ShockShock

ealingwestmum · 02/03/2022 18:22

I’ve applied for DD’s child EU passport to be renewed to a UK Adult one online Decorhate. All straightforward.

icanbewhatiwant · 02/03/2022 18:31

@Delphigirl thanks for info. I was just telling dh it's going to cost a lot and he said he can forget it then, he's not going. I'm expected to fund anything for the children, I don't earn much, dh is retired but easily has enough savings to pay for the year, but he won't because he's a typical farmer, he thinks they should be getting jobs, not going to university.

@Decorhate I have just sent off for ds's passport incase he goes on holiday with mates. I filled in the first adult passport form. It was easy enough, there is a section to fill in with current passport details.

Decorhate · 02/03/2022 18:34

Thanks both!

singingstones · 02/03/2022 18:37

I'm another who has only just renewed DC passports that expired in 2020. Wish I'd done DS's a couple of weeks earlier because it's more expensive to get an adult one. It was easy to do though and they took 2-3 weeks to arrive.

Delphigirl · 02/03/2022 18:50

@icanbewhatiwant - in a way US year abroad is a huge bargain, as you are getting $70,000k of US private college education for £1850, or alternatively a year extra of university for much less than £9250 UK annual fees, even with the medical insurance costs (assuming no appendectomies are required. But of course you can’t fund the medical insurance with a student loan.
is he interested in going to Canada instead? He can easily travel in the us from there and it will give him a North American college experience similar to the US in lots of ways…

Delphigirl · 02/03/2022 19:05

God I’ve just read this guardian article - I didn’t realise these changes to student loans include retrospective changes to loans going back to 2012. So what’s to stop further retrospective being changed in the future? Nothing. Kids taking loans out simply don’t know what they are going to be paying back, at what rate and for how long, in the future.

www.theguardian.com/education/2022/mar/02/student-loan-changes-hit-lower-earners-harder-than-first-thought-ifs

“Changes to student loans in England announced by the government last week will hit lower-earning graduates even harder than first feared, costing them an extra £28,000, according to updated analysis by the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

The IFS had previously calculated that lower- and middle-earning graduates would end up paying an additional £15,000-£19,000 towards their loan over their lifetime as a result of the changes, while the highest earners stood to benefit.

A “crucial tweak” in supporting documents from the Department for Education prompted the IFS to revise its forecasts, as it spotted that the threshold for loan repayments would in future be tied to inflation rather than average earnings, increasing graduate repayments by lower earners significantly.

The tweak will also apply to borrowers in the current system who began university between 2012 and 2022, according to the IFS, which described it as “a massive retrospective change in repayment conditions” that would hit lower- and middle-earning graduates hardest.

Under the changes unveiled last week, for students starting university next year the repayment term for loans will be extended from 30 to 40 years after graduation. In addition, the income threshold at which loan repayments begin will be lowered from more than £27,000 to £25,000.

The repayment threshold will be frozen at £25,000 until 2026-27 and then indexed to the inflation rate rather than average earnings, according to the IFS.”

EventuallyDelighted · 02/03/2022 19:22

I didn't realise it was retrospective, that's awful. We were seriously considering DS having a gap year to earn some money and gain a few more life skills (as mentioned yesterday he's anxious about things like banking) but as he's likely to be a low to middle earner as his likely career path is public sector / third sector and he has significant SNs we just can't do that now, it feels to me as though this penalises students who are already disadvantaged far more than it does high-fliers. As for the proposed English/maths GCSE requirement, that is also going to disproportionately affect those with dyslexia etc. I am pretty pissed off about the whole thing.

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2022 19:25

It's appalling, it really is.

singingstones · 02/03/2022 19:29

The english / maths thing is so infuriating. Completely moronic imo.