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Cake Decoraters Advice Needed!! Also a thread for Chat, Hints & Tips

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PlumBumMum · 20/05/2010 13:02

I know we had a thread a while back, and I'm always hijacking other peoples these days so SOME ADVICE NEEDED

Need to invest in some more cake tins, I have currently been working with a friends tins, but she is talking about starting up again so I will have to give them back

So at the minute I am looking at buying square tins, should I go for seperate sizes of Invicta OR the multi size cake tin

Has anyone got one? what do you think, Is it anygood?

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ByThePowerOfGreyskull · 27/05/2010 14:55

awesome! I love the car on a communion cake..

and your Jimmy Choo's - fabulous. do you paint the labels or have them printed onto edible paper?

PlumBumMum · 27/05/2010 15:24

The communion cake was to be a non Holy Communion cake and he liked F1, so that was what I came up with, but didn't want too much more on it as it was still a communion cake iyswim

Jimmy Choo's I do the writing on to flower paste with edible ink pen, normally print off a sheet with closest match to writing and use it as guide under the paste

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ByThePowerOfGreyskull · 27/05/2010 17:02

Cool! is it a shoe cutter thing that you have or do you cut the shoe free hand?

Sorry for all the questions I am just mightlily impressed!

PlumBumMum · 27/05/2010 18:58

I drew a template myself its a full size 7 shoe

Used the basis of a template that was linked on cake central and a new high heel, I modified the template so it would be adult size,
although I did buy the cutters recently for the small shoes and haven't got to use them yet,
keep meaning to sit and make some different styles to see what they are like,

and don't worry makes a change from me asking all the questions, my christening cake has bee cancelled but I don't mind as I really need to get going on the people for wedding cake

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Olihan · 29/05/2010 22:35

Oh god, I need your sympathy.

I have 8 big cakes and 100 cupcakes to do by the 19th of June and we're away from next Sunday til the Thursday.

I think I'm going to have a nervous breakdown .

Doing MIL's 60th atm which I rashly decided I'd make a bouquet of wired flowers for . So far I have a lily and a stem of freesias. They are so damned fiddly and I'm chucking away more than I'm keeping as I snap them or mess up the veining or wiring.

I also decided to have a stall at our village fete to get my name known a bit so I'm making a couple of (3 tier) dummy cakes, a fruit cake and a chocolate cake, plus the cupcakes to sell.

Then I've got a victoria sponge for a top cake on a wedding tower, a 13th birthday cake and a 7th birthday cake.

HHHeeeeeeeeelllllllllpppppp!

PlumBumMum · 31/05/2010 17:45

Olihan I'm stressed just reading that

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questions2008 · 31/05/2010 20:26

hiya i'm new to cake decorating and wanting to learn how to pipe decorations but have no idea about icing bags and different tips and couplers. what would you pros suggest i start with, i'm only after a basic set of different tips i can practice with.

PussinJimmyChoos · 31/05/2010 20:32

Wow! Am admiring the cakes on the profiles! I love baking and decorating but at the vv early stages and with working part time, don't get a lot of chances to do it!

ADriedFrogForTheBursar · 31/05/2010 20:35

OOOOOH I want need that sooooop dooooopa tin with all the bits that slide into make it different sizes

PussinJimmyChoos · 31/05/2010 20:42

I had no idea such tins existed!

DebiTheScot · 31/05/2010 20:48

hello, I was on the christmas thread with some of you. Have done a couple of birthday cakes since then but just for dh and ds so not in the same league as some of you. Also they're nowhere near as good as some of yours. Think all the ones I've done are on my profile though.

Olihan · 31/05/2010 23:51

Welcome to the dark side Puss .

And just to add to my general stress levels, the builders announced today that they'll be knocking through the kitchen wall in 3 weeks time. So just around the time I'm doing 3 big cakes and 150 cupcakes, hey no worries

Olihan · 31/05/2010 23:54

questions, the best nozzles are made by PME. They fit into ordinary greaseproof icing bags which you can make yourself - try looking on YouTube for instructions on how to make them.

Are you looking at doing it with buttercream piping or royal icing?

stealthsquiggle · 01/06/2010 00:02

Evening all. I can't be bothered adding cakes to profile right now, but I met this butterly pattern mould in the Lakeland reduced section so MIL had a painted butterfly themed cake - and I did a rather cute bear as a topper for a christening cake (cake was barely cold when iced, so I needed something to make in advance). Bear was much admired but no-one except me noticed his beautifully textured cellular blankie .

Now, what shall I make for myself (birthday this week)?

Olihan · 01/06/2010 00:11

stealth, was it you who wanted the Lindy Smith stencils or was it Greyskull? I've just bought one but don't know how successful/easy it will be. Need some tips!

The blankie sounds beautiful, I'dve noticed it, .

stealthsquiggle · 01/06/2010 00:59

I think it might have been me - but if it was, I resisted. DD has ordered a jungle party/cake so at some stage I will be seeking inspiration for that and matching cupcakes.

Brasso4 · 01/06/2010 15:49

Oooo, so glad I have found this thread!

Just doing our first project - husband and I were in hysterics last night as we tried to ice our practice christening cakes. I was actually crying with laughter at the rubbishness of our cake!

We used the multi-size cake tin, which I think was excellent and have a nice madeira cake recipe which worked well but the icing...OMG!

I think we rolled the fondant too thin and our cake was really wonky(!), the fondant also stuck to the work surface despite it being covered in icing sugar and cornflour. We are also trying to put some small bricks on top of the cake (like child's blocks) which we also tried to fondant (they are small 2in square cakes), this was a disaster!
So some questions:

  1. Will rolling on cling film make things easier and less sticky or does someone have any other tips?
  2. When making our little blocks how can we neatly hide the joins in the fondant, yet still make them look square?
  3. How much butter icing should we put on the outside of the cake before putting the fondant on?
  4. Is there anything else it would be useful for us to know?

I know that MNers are great so hoping you can sort us out. Christening is 19th June so do have time for a bit more practice!

stealthsquiggle · 01/06/2010 16:08
  1. Will rolling on cling film make things easier and less sticky or does someone have any other tips?

More icing sugar - and knead the icing before you start rolling it. Don't bother with cling film.

  1. When making our little blocks how can we neatly hide the joins in the fondant, yet still make them look square?

take a sheet and 'ease' it over the block, rather than making joins, IYSWIM. I think you probably are rolling it too thin.

  1. How much butter icing should we put on the outside of the cake before putting the fondant on?

Just enough to get a flat surface. Time spent (with knife dipped in hot water) smoothing the buttercream is time well spent - don't think that fondant will hide a lumpy surface because it really won't. Also leave the buttercream to dry a little before you try and put fondant on.

  1. Is there anything else it would be useful for us to know?

You need one of these to get a smooth surface.

Review your design. It might seem like a good idea to have a plainish cake with decorations, but actually the plain, smooth cake is by far the hardest bit - a cake covered in stuff or with some sort of textured surface hides the inevitable flaws a lot better.

PlumBumMum · 01/06/2010 16:12

Brasso I have a christening cake on my profile with building blocks but they are lumps of fondant

Roll your fondant out on cooken(fat) rubbed on your surface

I need to go now but just wanted to mark this so I could read your post later

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PlumBumMum · 01/06/2010 16:13

Hi Debbi

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Brasso4 · 01/06/2010 16:14

Thank you Stealthsquiggle! I do have a smoother thngie, the buttercream stuff is great. I suspect we need tons more fondant

Brasso4 · 01/06/2010 16:20

Wow PlumBumMum, your cakes are fab! One day....

PlumBumMum · 01/06/2010 16:25

I only started last year, but as someone said before it is an expensive hobbie

right I really must get dd1 off to dancing

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Olihan · 01/06/2010 22:26

Brasso, you need to roll your fondant out to about 5mm thick . Knead it well so it's about body temperature but not horrible goopy. Then, keep it moving as you roll out. So, go forwards and backwards once, spin it 90 degrees, go forwards and backwards again, spin it 90 degrees, etc. Also lift every 3rd or 4th turn and sprinkle a little bit more icing sugar underneath. Keeping it moving and turning it all the time means it will be more evenly rolled too - you won't have fat bits and thin bits! If it starts to go a peculiar shape then bash it back into a square with the heel/side of your hand before you roll again. Once it's the right thickness fold it over the rolling pin, drape it over the cake and smooth with your hands first, easing out the big creases. Use the palm of your hand to rub the corners otherwise you'll get awful cracks.

If you tell us how big the cake is I can tell you how much icing you'll need to get a god covering.

I would cover the blocks in the same way as you cover the main cake, tbh.

I agree with stealth, too. A plain iced cake is very hard to achieve if you're a novice. Go with a design where you can stick some kind of decoration over any major flaws .

PLUM, I get my boards and boxes in bulk from thecraftcompany.co.uk. They're the cheapest for the actual items and their postage is very reasonable too (to England, at least, don't know about for you). I found quite a few places where the boxes/boards were really cheap but the postage was so extortionate it almost doubled the price of each one.

Have finished one dummy wedding cake, the other is plain iced, just waiting for its stencilling. MIL's 60th cake is nearly finished and I've made all the wired flowers for it. Just got to ice the top tier and assemble it now......

I think I'll have to link to my FB fan page because I can't get DH's laptop to reduce the size of the pics (bloomin' MacBook). Will do it when I've finished this week's orders.

bellavita · 01/06/2010 22:42

I think that's where I go wrong - not kneeding enough. I am frightened of over kneeding.

Do you all have one really extra large rolling pin?

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