Anybody else not 'DO' Organic?

[dyzzidi]

Okay so I don't have kids yet so i may alter my opinion then but I don't do organic.

I actually refuse to buy anything organic as I feel it has not harmed me all of my life eating normal stuff.

I eat quite healthily lots of fruit and veg etc but will not pay for the organic label and what is organic ketchup & baked beans all about?. I thought if something was bad for you it was bad for you regardless of that is in it.

Also I don't do Tofu or quorn or anything I feel is manufactured veggies.

Ok there I have voiced the fact that I and many of my friends don't do organic, Anyone else?????

switzerland

Recycle? YES ALWAYS

Use public transport where possible? YES - own no car

Use chemical cleaning products? only a little

Live in inner citys where pollution is a big problem? i want to live on the land but am in a city atm

Buy local produce? ja

Wear Fur? no

Try not to put us in box tho dyzzidi... The reality of the situation is that I not too live a too fat western lifestyle and try and be aware of what effect others and not just me. And organics is one was to do that. I don´t even look at the price tbh... I still buy organics regardless.

I compost [smug emoticon]

Not me personally, of course!

But don't eat much organic . Cost of organic meat is shocking

no ...you Tinker are you changing your name

Those of you who buy organic....do you always make sure it's British Soil standard, and not imported organic? Do you always make sure the produce is fairtrade to ensure that that the farmer is being paid a fair price for your purchase?

Yes.. meat is expensive. But even if it was cheap I hardly eat it.

Do they smoke/live with smoker? No/No

Recycle? Yes - but only because the council provide the containers

Use public transport where possible? Never

Use chemical cleaning products? Yes

Live in inner citys where pollution is a big problem? No

Buy local produce? if they sell it in a supermarket

Wear Fur? Never

Not trying to make anyone eccentric just wondering thats all some people go through life without a care for anything. Most of my friend are like me and am interested in other peoples views.

I think if you want to do something in life you should do it whatever it is.(ps would love to live in suburbs)

Also have made the point not trying to argue am just interested. And that i may change when I have children!

Am alos interested that there are only a couple of us admitting to not buying organic etc there must be more of us.

Did try to grow own veg last year but slugs ate them

Agree absolutely about not wanting to be put in a box, papillon. Ironically, I went to a ghastly dinner party a few years ago where DH (an economist) and I were the prize exhibits for a debate with some very militant environmentalists. I am sceptical about much of the green agenda, especially 'deep ecology', not least because my research is all about poverty in Africa and I am suspicious of greens who want us to revert to a locally-based economy. I can't see how the people I met in various parts of Africa can't improve their living standards without an increase in international trade. The other guests were extremely hostile to this viewpoint, as they drank their Chilean wine and ate hummus.

God if we move to suburbs will never see DP as he will so be growing his own veg!

actually not a bad idea

There are plenty more of you dyzzidi... thats why there is more conventional food at the supermarket than organics.

It should not just be about your kids... but also what you eat. Goodluck getting food into their mouths when/if you have kids!!

Oldiemum How rude to treat you as exhibits. People should never be put in boxes that was not my intention here, if people are taking that way i have been misunderstood.

I am growing cherry tomatoes on the balcony this summer and beans in a window box its my ´inner´ garden physically and spiritually

its just the list of questions you made us all answer dyzzidi

Will be watering my only remaining plant. very tiny inner garden.

oops boss is here will check back later ladies.

Goodbye to all

Not sure whether I have a coherent set of principles (I know I can think of plenty of exceptions!) but if I do, they are to reduce the impact on the planet of how I live my life, to support British farmers (many of whom I think are in a difficult situation) and not to encourage outright exploitation.

I am bothered about my health, but the difference I can make by taking exercise, not smoking and eating a balanced diet is much, much greater than the difference I can make by the decision to eat organic/never to touch McDonalds, IMHO.

So to answer your questions

Do they smoke/live with smoker? No/No

Recycle? Yes - and compost.

Use public transport where possible? Yes. Walk/cycle to work

Use chemical cleaning products? No

Live in inner citys where pollution is a big problem? No - small university city

Buy local produce? 50% of time

Wear Fur? No, but I do/did hunt (different perspective on the animal welfare issues involved than the majority of the population, I guess)

I buy organic meat through a box scheme, have my own veg patch and buy british organic veg when available in the supermarket. Otherwise it's whatever British veg is available.

I also eat fast food on an occasional basis, drink too much and have been known to take recreational drugs. Worse than that, I have provided non organic sausage rolls and sweeties at a kids party.

Now you know my darkest secrets!

Oldiemum, your dinner party sounds hilarious (in a toe-curling kind of way!)

I'm very suspicious of any kind of agenda that suggests we should be lowering western standards of living rather than helping developing countries improve theirs.

Gizmo - it was funny only in retrospect. We were both treated with enormous hostility and disrespect, despite having been invited to what was supposed to be a friendly debate. At one point, one man just said 'I'm not even listening to what you're saying', with a sneer that seemed pretty sexist to me.

sneaking back on as it is technicaly lunchtime.

Oldiemum have you been back to the friends house?

No friends of mine - an ex-colleague of DH's! Nope. Felt we'd been invited there under false pretences.

You should have been as mature as them and say you obviousley think you are right so lets leave it at that sweetie.

I work in a very male environment and when they get really bad i say that to them they suddenly all try to backtrack and finally i can get my point across wihtout banging their heads together.

Same stupid men have all just hidden while I removed a bee from the office so maybe I just work with idiots

I think I did handle it maturely. DH and I made our points politely and forcefully and left as soon as we decently could.