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I've just been told that vegans don't eat honey. Is this true and if so, why?

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Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 21:56

That's it really.

I'd always thought that vegans don't eat animal products that have been produced by causing pain or exploitation. Does honey fit with this? I'd have thought that bees can, well...buzz off ...if they don't like where they are.

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Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:07

I'll be up to speed when I meet the vegan mum again next week, anyway.

Last time I met her she was wearing a 'Go Vegan' T shirt, so I suspect she's evangelical.

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Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:08

I'll try out the egg theories on her.

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puffling · 09/05/2008 23:08

I once innocently asked where the honey was in the Unicorn Grocery in Manchester. I got the most chilling look in response. You might have imagined I was proposing to kill and eat bee meat, by the look I got.

pinkyminky · 09/05/2008 23:09

RE Honey- a friend of mine asked at Unicorn, a local lentil-weaving store, where the honey was- she was told quite curtly that they don't sell any animal exploitative products. I think it's run by Jain Monks.

Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:13

puffling

I'm picturing a bee kebab.

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pinkyminky · 09/05/2008 23:14

Oh wow puffling- jinx. It's not you, my friend, BTW. She has do intention of being a mum!

Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:16

The Jain religion originates in India.

Mr Bubble (theology grad) has just told me that the Jains would go to war with and kill neighbouring humans but would wear mouth covers so that they didn't inadvertently swallow and therefore kill insects.

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RustyBear · 09/05/2008 23:17

bubble - maybe tea is ok if you only use leaves that have already fallen off the plant....

CombustibleLemon · 09/05/2008 23:18

Has anyone seen the episode of Black Books where Manny ends up drinking absinthe and grilling bees (dead ones) over a candle?

ib · 09/05/2008 23:19

My vegan sister would say she is against the keeping of chickens at all, and therefore will eat no eggs.

pinkyminky · 09/05/2008 23:23

That was my pun, Bubble! Thanks for explaining it. I don't think there are actually many Jain monks in Chorlton, but it wouldn't be that suprising.

combustible- I loved black books- but had the bees died of natural causes?

CombustibleLemon · 09/05/2008 23:23

Just me then...

Janni · 09/05/2008 23:24

I have never forgotten the moment when, at a Steiner parent and toddler group I heard a very thin, earnest mum telling another that she didn't eat honey because it was like a bee's breastmilk.

I really didn't know where to go with that.

Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:25

Then I suppose your sister is making a stand and not even eating ethically produced ie. wild chicken (can chickens be wild? ) eggs.

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CombustibleLemon · 09/05/2008 23:27

Yeah. Pinkyminky, yes. It was the episode where the new security system locked Manny in, and he used an SAS survival manual. The absinthe was 'keep your fluids up', the bees for food (found dead on the window ledge) and 'maintain radio contact' was listening to Radio 4.

Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:28

Vegans do tend to be very earnest, don't they? And thin and pale, IME.

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CombustibleLemon · 09/05/2008 23:30

But they don't wee on their carrots. Oh no.

pinkyminky · 09/05/2008 23:31

If they were wild, would there be more chance of them being fertilised?
MY brain is beginning to hurt.

lol bees breastmilk. Little breastfeeding bees. Bees are extremely brutal animals, if we are anthropomorphising for a mo. The drones get their wings bitten off and are starved to death by the workers.

Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:31

Newborn breastfed baby poo would be alright, though?

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pinkyminky · 09/05/2008 23:33

Rofl Combustible

Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:34

Nut milk.

Says it all, really.

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Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:37

Nut milk.

In Rotherham.

The dirty honey-shunning vegan bastards.

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CombustibleLemon · 09/05/2008 23:38

You can have wild or at least feral chickens Bubble. here

pinkyminky · 09/05/2008 23:39

Bubble,as a student I shared house with a hunt sab for a time. I was a vegetarian, long term, but he was soo earnest. He'd eat the same strange pan of goop all week, then I'd end up throwing the pan (mine) away as it was ruined form the seven days of reheating this goop. Not sure what the environmental impact of going through so many pans was. I've known other vegans who were less earnest, but yes, I know exactly what you mean.

Bubble99 · 09/05/2008 23:43

I love the 'person specification' for the job of chicken-catcher.

pinkyminky. Did he wear ratty old jumpers and complain of feeling cold all the time?
I can picture his wan face.

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