please tell me it's not true that milk is full of pus!! Is it the same with organic?

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Have felt sick all day since i read this

Anyone know if it's true? And why pus in it for goodness sake??

but only because the general public choose to believe it Hopseysgirlwasntbig - why believe everything you read/ are told?

true

are the reports made up then or is the rogue element that they are focusing on?

Thanks for your response sophie/caz et al it makes really interesting reading - my main concern was giving up chocolate

Just shows how things are stirred up by people you presume know what they are talking about (HM) and think they have researched it before making statements they know will be written about.

Yes, i should do my own research but where to start is my biggest problem! Ususally i totally ignore the press re: food, but this one made my stomach turn.

Well I'm very happy to have been proved wrong. Most of the misleading information I'd read was on the Vegetarian and Vegan Foundation website and another which claimed cows were pumped with a drug called BGH every few weeks and that milk was full of pus from untreated mastitis.
if this is all untrue, then I'm very relieved.
But please don't go on about "The Press" filling people's heads with this stuff. Most people get this kind of misleading crap from the internet, not newspapers.

This site makes all kinds of claims about milk. You can see why people get the wrong end of the stick.

no wonder people are confused and stop eating things.

I've always thought that milk was a mucus.

I'm a vegetarian btw (ovo-lacto) and I suspect that alleged Vegan and Vegetarian site doesn't actually represent the views of any vegetarians. Or many vegans. Just HMMc and her nutty friends.

And agree 'tis the internet, not the press wot's to blame, guv.

Must say, I read milk sucks (after meeting a girl on a hen weekend who didn't give her 1 year old milk!), and believed it all! I backed it up with other internet research but I freely admit it was a bit theory-laden i.e. I was searching for stuff to back it up not to refute it. My bad. Thanks for setting me straight!

I've just been chatting with DH online and copied some of the messages posted here to him.

NOW please please don't shout at me..... but he found this from the food commission. They're an independent body. I must confess it makes worrying reading.

Please reassure me.

terminology plays a massive part in how people perceive the same fact...

neutral.. ..Somatic cells present in milk - what's that??

positive.. ..White blood cells - ooohh they help fight infection don't they, that's probably a good thing?

..negative.. ..pus - eeewww, that's nasty smelly horrid stuff..

but what's being talked about is all the same.

People happily drink sparkling mineral water - water with CO2 dissolved in it.. .or carbonic acid as it could also be called.. ..although anyone who buys Evian and hasn't noticed what it is backwards deserves everything that happens to them... ;-)

Tim Lobstein is jolly interesting and is a worthwhile interviewee but there's not enough evidence for anyone to worry - as he admits if you see how many disclaimers he had put into this article. Such as "The quantities of hormones in our milk supply are not equivalent to pharmceutical amounts, and their absorption from the alimentary tract may be poor".

And the table purporting to show "How milk hormones affect health?" is really, really oversold. It's all very well to have disclaimers such as 'it cannot be stressed too highly that the research base is extremely poor, and we should be seeking better evidence" but the whole design and content of the box is misleading. And I'm willing to bet a substantial amount that there is NO reliable, peer-reviewed consensus evidence that oxytocin in dairy causes human beings to develop cardiovascular disease.

The Food Commission sounds very grand and important, btw, but they are just (another) lobby group. They do some good stuff (esp. involving parents in discussions about food advertising to children) but they aren't The Word Of God.

I was given a leaflet on this years ago its because all the cows get mastitus from to much milking I always buy organic now cant even look at other milk. saying that how do you know orgaic cows havent got mastitus?

But you still feed your own babies when you have mastitis. Agree, it's teh terminology rather than the facts that are teh squirm factor here.

Yes but its my mastitis not a cows

umm, sorry mummysunny, but cows do NOT get mastitis from being milked too much. I grew up on a farm and that statement is total rubbish

Cows get mastitis from not being milked enough and from bacteria having entered the udder (which can happen in summer due to fly infestation and the like). Anyway, once a cow has mastitis it needs to be treated with antiboitics and is taken aside from the main milkers. The milk from that cow gets kept apart from the main tank and flushed down the drain. Even once better there is a withdrawal period before that milk is allowed back into the tank to make sure that there is no trace of antibiotics in what you drink, or of cell count ()i.e. pus).

Who gave you the leaflet, because they are spreading sh*t in the same way that farmers put crap on the fields!!

It's sad how ignorant the general populous is in regard to food production. The food you eat now is safer than at almost any point in history. The Victorians used to have nice things like TB in their milk and added alum to bread to pad it out cheaply...not very good for you though.

HMC is a clueless bint

Vegetables anf fuit are full of cells

Shock , horror!

Meat is full of blood cells!

Swoon

Milk will have white blood cells in it, but not pus

Pus is a decaying mix of white blood cells and bacteria.

So unless the cows have been squeezing zits into their milk this is horse shit.

Oh and hold the presses, Organic veg is grown in rotting shit!

Live with it!

Y'know, there's alot of reasons people say breast is best - one is that it provides baby with immunity from infection. Via immunoglobulins and white blood cells. That'll be the "pus" these people are so terrified of. It's NATURAL. FFS.

mummysunnyme, all cows get mastitis regardless of whether they are organic or not, organic refers to the feed that cows get, they all still get treated with antibiotics if needed and mik withdrawn, suggest you ask a farmer(or on here as there are a few of us) for more info and get a balanced opinion