please tell me it's not true that milk is full of pus!! Is it the same with organic?

[UniversallyChallenged]

Have felt sick all day since i read this

Anyone know if it's true? And why pus in it for goodness sake??

Just been reading about all the hormones conventional dairy cows are injected with.
Will be making a big effort to buy only organic from now on.

Doesn't worry me - I drink loads of milk and am nowhere near the size of a shed which the 2nd article suggests. My grandparents used to milk their cows, let it sit in a bucket in the pantry, skim the top off after a day and drink it. No heating to kill germs, no fridge. They were perfectly healthy. If they could drink that, I'm quite happy to drink the stuff from the supermarket.

Cornsilk, I'm guessing your grandparents didn't inject their cows with hormones every couple of weeks or keep them in a state where they had constant mastitis, causing a constant stream of pus to secrete into the milk.

cornsilk your grandparents cow wasn't intensivley milked, hugley different to supermarket milk.

I can't say that this would put me off drinking milk. I couldn't really care less, milk, pus, mucus, whatever. And I grew up drinking raw milk from a farm.

It would be like me forsaking rhubarb crumbles because my mum told me years ago that they grow rhubarb in shit (I still don't know whether this is true by the way).

So long as it tastes ok and isn't harmful, I'm wondering why we should feel more negative about pus than we do about bovine mammary secretions.

I had my tea with no milk this morning as i couldn't stand the thought of drinking pus! It was very nice actually.

Would you eat plant secretions that have been sucked out, partially digested, and vomited up by insects?

Cos I love honey, me.

Forgive me for being dense, but...isn't milk pasteurised, so any nasties will be dead anyway?

If so don't see what the fuss is about!

You eat eggs don't you and there are plenty of things you could say about those!

Oh how very disgusting. They should give milk a jolly good bleach before letting us drink it and scrub those cows with carbolic every morning. And ban yoghurt and cheese which have more foul bacteria added to them ON PURPOSE... And not grow fruit and veg in the dirty mud which might have, eek!, poo in it...

or not.

I'm with GetOrfMoiLand on this one.

They grow lots of fruit etc in shit, its just fertiliser. I mean, rabbits, bugs whatever shit in the ground.

And milk is just milk whatever components you choose to break it down into- people have been drinking since time immemorial its really bizarre to just decide (not the OP) now that it's not appropriate isn't it?

I'm actually unable to drink it for med reasons as are 2 of my dc's, and I really ds2 and Dh for being able to have milk products.

Isn't it because of the white blood cells in milk??

Which is what pus is made up of......

So it's referring to all milk, organic or not.

But it's basically a load of old bolleaux. Just because there are white blood cells in milk does not mean it's pus like the stuff that comes out of zits!!!!!

Sorry - not a very scientific explanation I know!

What will they drag up next to freak people out!! I'm a vet, although don't do large animal work any more, and this had me creased up laughing. Milk does not contain pus! Pus is dead leucocytes in mucus, and often contains bacteria. Milk contains leucocytes (white blood cells), which won't hurt you. I don't remember injecting cows with hormones every 2 wks!! Occasionally they got jags to synchronise their cycles so they could be inseminated more efficiently, but this was at a time when they weren't milking. There are strict milk withdrawal periods for all drugs. The white blood cells in cows milk is a completely natural by product of any inflammation,not infection, and milk counts are carefully scrutinised, as an increase in cell count means loss of revenue for the farmer. Calm down people!

this is such a load of crap!!! - there is no pus in milk! organic or otherwise.

Eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww....but, mmmm I love milk.

Sorry, but you have got things sooo wrong!!

The main difference in Organic milk is what the cows actually eat! On a vets advice antibiotics would be allowed. All medicines are strictly controlled anyway, and no one wants to give medicines unnecessarily, they cost money!

Whether organic or not (or from goats) it all comes from an animal, and as someone else said, it is just cells - in fact it is actually called a "cell - count"
We are under contract to produce milk with a cell count lower than 250, and you get penalised if it is above 200.

LyraSilvertongue - what hormones are they injected with?????? and when?
Occasionally ours will be given a hormone injection if they have cystic ovaries, or fail to become pg, but any milk taken after a treatment would be discarded, as with a cow with mastitis, or a freshly calved cow producing colostrum.....

Phew just saw your post RedJools - sanity prevails!

I've just switched our milk to organic, but I didn't know about the pus thing, yuk.

I was more worried about the hormones that the non organic cows are given, also the gm food they eat.

I did start another thread about organic baby milk, my DD refuses powdered formula, she only likes the pre made stuff, I've gone through every make, only prob is, I can't find any pre made organic baby milk.

not that I'm suggested I'm now not worried about having drunk pus for years

so are all the people saying eeew to milk and not buying it going to stop with cheese,yoghurts,chocolate,marg etc????

cazboldy, from what I've gleaned recently, it seems that non organic cows are pumped full of hormones to up their milk production aswell as for treating mastitis etc. My main concern is what effect these hormones have on the humans drinking the milk. There was a recent debate about girls starting puberty earlier than previous decades, from what I remember the argument was something about whether it's down to better nutrician or whether it's due to the chemicals and hormones in the food we eat. Milk being one of the bigger culprits. As I say, this is just from memory. I feel bad at not having succeeded to bf my daughter (now 5 months), it makes me feel better that the one thing I have control of now, ie her nutrician, I can do the very best in my knowledge, so hence the organic food.

This is what the woman on wifeswap said too. I started a thread about it a while ago.

I have no idea but do buy organic milk products cos I didn't like the thought of antib's and hormones in my food. I buy mainly organinc stuff anyway thoguh.

AAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH

FFS they are not pumped with hormones every 2 weeks

Milk from cows which have been treated for mastitis does not enter the food chain

And these sort of comments from the media which hs meant that 4 good dairy farmers have sold up in the last 3 years and we are holding on by a thread

Thank you rant over,

thanks to redjools for an injection of sanity and common sense!!