campaign for free range chicken!!!!!!! Please.

[fordfiesta]

Please check out www.chickenout.tv or watch Hugh's chicken run tonight at 2100 channel 4.
you can sign up for his campaign on the above address.... sorry dont know how to do the link.
If you have been watching the program you will know how important it is!
thank you.

So, hang on, just because I say "Actually, you don't need to eat meat" I'm some sort of elitist?

Nobody needs to eat meat.

They might choose to eat meat and ignore the way it's produced. That is entirely their prerogative.

You'll like tonight's "you're just guilt tripping people" woman, a lot of you.

Carmenere, agree utterly.

we should lay the blame squarely at the big supermarkets, not the consumers.

we don't have any farmers markets or even independent butchers round here anymore.

it's easy to say buy this and that if you have the means to travel to these places and you can afford it.

the majority of the uk public, i think, don't have the luxury that some others have.

I mean without any meat at all in your diet - not without any meat in the meal (although that's an issue - although I do manage to get in 1/2 veggie meals a week - costs me as much as cooking a "meat" dish - so not really sure why I bother LOL).

I also wonder about the nutrient content in an intensively reared bird? Surely if all they do all day is eat, drink, barely move, get no sunlight, pee and poo on themselves then the protein and nutritional value would be of a much lower standard than of a free-range bird?? Or am I oversimplifying things?

i'm with nutty, i have been there and done that. when it was a choice of cheap meat or no meat, i went for cheap meat. there was a time when i couldnt afford free range chicken, i can now, but i dont know how much longer that will be for. i would love to be able to afford free range all the time, and organic etc etc, but sadly with the prices the way they are we wouldnt be able to feed a family of 5 (one who oftened need high protein foods) well on the amount set by for it.

i wont be watching the programme, mainly as Peter is watching soemthing else at that time.

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Sorry did all you deny-ers miss that you can buy a kilo of free-rangechicken legs in Asda for 3 quid??

SEA, yep, I agree.

So instead of going "it's elitist, I can't afford it, stop making me feel guilty, I've gotta feed my family", why not go "actually, Mr Supermarket Boss, I'd rather like you to stop your abusive practices wrt chicken production and go free range."

exellent point Carmenere..

Chicken in our house is a bloody luxury and its only consumed monthly if that.
There's plenty of other things to cook and eat-I really dont see the whole must feed the family with chicken 3 times a week ethos.
We eat far too much meat in this country.

i dont shop in asda carm. due to their way of treating peter when he was ill...

The reason the other chickens are larger though as someone pointed out on the other thread is because they packed full of water, steroids and pork fat - are you really happy with that?

Why not just buy a free range chicken, give less meat in the portion and add some extra potatoes.

We are not on a high income by any stretch of the imagination but I would rather feed my children decent meat or none at all so I don't think it is elitist.

if the government banned it and tesco etc refused to sell it the price of free range would come down. All it would take is for one of the major super makets to take the lead. I dont think 'being poor' is an excuse when there are alternatives and as i said before we manage on very little money. It is our expectations that need to change.
Shall we put all our kids in a barn for a month never change their nappy, put them down if they start to limp, ignore it when they scratch each others eyes out and deny them sleep for 23 hiurs a day?
Why do we believe we can treat animals like this?
If it was dogs/cats/horses etc you would be prosecuted what is the difference?

organic is more expensive than free range. Don't get to 2 confused...organic doesn't mean free-range just that the little darlings have been fed on organic feed..

btw, the chicken legs are loved better than breast meat in this house.

to go to asda would really tear me in two though.

Who said anyone was having chicken 3 times a week ??

FMV - that was always my impression but as someone (again on the other thread pointed out) to qualify for the soil association's organic badge the chickens also need to be free range.

Fordfiesta, completely agree!

Have never seen the kilo of chicken legs you speak of in Asda Carmenere. If I do I will buy some.

Honestly I can say that if I really couldn't afford to eat free range chicken I would rather go without

I bought one on Sunday it was about 4 lbs I think and was £10 (organic one)

DH and I had a roast from it on Sunday night

On monday I made stock from it, froze 1 litre of stock and made a huge soup with 10 bean mix, lentils, carrots, celery, onion, herbs, spices etc and some of the crappier leftovers.

On Monday night dd had this for supper and I had for lunch

DH and I both had it for supper last night

There is still plenty left for tomorrow lunch for both of us to take to work, and dd for tea tomorrow and I have frozen enough for a saturday lunchtime for all of us

And tonight dd and I made chicken nuggets from the remaining meat, she had one lot tonight and have frozen enough for another meal.

So from one chicken we have had 13 servings of various meals + stock

Not that expensive really if you make sure you use it all

It may be manipulation de jour atm but for me this has been personally well researched and thought out for years.
It is a personal choice to take this information on board, and I agree that starving children are more important but this media campaign is true and is relevant to most people so make your choice but be aware of what you are choosing.

these free range chickens don't look very happy to me.

And if I had just got free range not organic free range it would have been £7 or £8

ah yes, sorry, you are right.. What I meant was you can buy 'normal' free range chickens for only £2 more than standard broiler. (in Asda) The organic ones are much more expensive. If you want to say no to broiler, but are worried about the cost, it's worth knowing it doesn't have to be organic.

People need to stop buying intensively reared meat,and stop bleating on about how they can't afford not buy decent meat..simple.

and I rather my children aren't fed on growth hormones and steroids,f*ck the price tbh...I'd rather they go without.

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