Now that processed meats have been deemed carcinogenic by the World Health Agency...

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Can I ask if you will be allowing your kids to eat sausages, ham, burgers etc? They are also warming about red meat in general so I can no longer feel virtuous when I cook homemade lasagne or shepherds pie.

My son loves sausages, I tend to buy the 98% pork ones but again, now thinking that I'm hurting him by letting him have sausages at all.

What are other people giving their children for dinner? I feel like I'm royally fucking up nowadays although I did make fresh cod goujons in a tempura batter two nights ago and he thought they were great. I must get at least one brownie point for the fish!

If I avoided that then DD who is a picky eater would have no protein in her diet. I do limit them but to be honest, living in a city I'm exposed to all kind of air born "baddies" I'm sure and I'm certainly not about to boycot breathing.
Obviously it's a balancing act and moderation is the key BUT it's no use prolonging life if it's a miserable one.

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/diet-and-cancer/diet-facts-and-evidence#diet_facts6

This gives a good explanation as to the good types and why they may increase the risk of cancer. This info has been around a few years now. Bowel cancer runs in my family so we cut back on these to once or twice a month a while ago.

Lemonfizzypop bacon is processed meat. Unprocessed meat is meat that's just meat.

Beebar beef, lamb etc in moderation is not a problem. Avoiding processed food is always known. I think the problem is most people eat too much red meat. You don't need to have a piece of steak every meal.

HeadDreamer people following a Paleo way of eating would say different.

Beebar, there is millions of things left to eat. Just not stuff in the processed food aisles.

Meat is fine, just not processed meat. And unfortunately due to farming practices, all (non processed) pork products arelated less healthy than they otherwise might have been in the past.

If you want to try to be healthy, just stick to foods in their pure form for the most part.

...there are....

You can get preservative-free sausages (our butcher does them).

All is not lost.

Oh no! What about SPAM?

Those saying meat is just meat... well it is, until you cook it. Then it is processed. The act of cooking it increases it carcinogenic properties.

All of which has been known for decades. It isn't new.

And it just takes you back to the moderation message - boring but true!

Quorn is very processed and if you read a bit more about it, not good for you at all.
articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/09/11/quorn-brand-meat-substitute.aspx

I thought the health brigade said this ages ago; full of nitrates or something or other they said.

This is not new.

We have sausages a maximum of once a week, bacon rarely - for special treats (bacon sandwiches very occasionally), and ham about once a month.

We always buy organic, and balance it off with lots of fresh veg and veggie/vegan meals a couple of times a week too.

But now I'm going to make ds a bacon sarnie for breakfast because this is one of those rare occasions when we have it in the house.

And I would never, ever eat Quorn - what's wrong with lentils and chickpeas?

You can eat paleo without having red meat daily.

It's the chemical nitrates and nitrites that are the problem. We avoid them as I'm lucky enough to have a local health food shop that stocks nitrate free bacon and deli chorizo etc, and has a huge freezer full of pastured organic meats. We've taken to eating a mix of organ meats like liver from pastured chicken along with a variety of fish etc. IMO the nutritional benefits of eating live occasionally (iron and vitamin a content) will outweigh the risks, particularly as we are eating a diet hugely rich in veg will also offers a protective effect.

It's a balancing act, that's all. You shouldn't need to avoid everything, all of the time!

No such thing as "World Health Agency"

I still drink alcohol a few times a week & DC will continue to eat ham most days.

So turkey mince is ok? Ds loves spag Bol - is it better to make this with turkey mince than beef mince?

Don't believe them. Sounds like it could be part of the whole green agenda plan, the climate catastrophe game of saying that meat production "harms the planet". Removal of healthy food from the population is part of the game.

Merguez, to look after your health you have to understand their game. When they tell you aspartame and GMO is safe and that red meat is bad for you, you need to understand the game they are playing and why they are playing it.

'1. Sustainable healthy eating: the case for action
The food system is degrading the environment upon which its future depends.
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Third, eating patterns will need to change. What, and how much we eat is directly related to what, how much and in what ways it is produced. We therefore need to consume more „sustainably? – we need to adopt eating patterns that have lower environmental impacts, that deliver broader societal benefits, and support good health.
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Both crop and livestock production generate environmental costs and associated policy challenges. Recent years, however, have seen the focus of attention falling particularly on livestock, borne of the realisation that the rearing of livestock for meat, eggs and dairy products generates some 15% of total global GHG emissions and utilises 70% of agricultural land, including a third of arable land, potentially also competing with crop production needs (Gerber et al 2013,FAO 2006).5 6 Grazing livestock, and less directly, the production of feed crops are together key agricultural drivers of deforestation, biodiversity loss and land degradation."

www.fcrn.org.uk/sites/default/files/fcrn_wellcome_gfs_changing_consumption_report_final.pdf

If you see charidees and luvvies calling for meat free Mondays etc, wise up and understand the game.

'the rearing of livestock for meat, eggs and dairy products generates some 15% of total global GHG emissions'

They told us eggs were bad, they say dairy is bad, they say meat is bad. Don't believe the luvvies.

"World's oldest person, 115, is Brooklynite who eats four strips of bacon every morning"

A Brooklyn resident has become the world's oldest woman - and she eats four strips of bacon, eggs and grits every morning.
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And when she rises in the morning, she has four strips of bacon, eggs and potato grits, and on a Sunday, when her family visit, they usually have a barbecue feast."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3131587/World-s-oldest-person-115-eats-four-strips-bacon-morning-likes-wear-fancy-lacy-lingerie.html

At risk of poking the ant hill

What does this mean? And why the odd tonality? It doesn't help any cause.

"Removal of healthy food from the population is part of the game."

'"Removal of healthy food from the population is part of the game."'

The game is to tell you that healthy food is unhealthy and that GM food is fine.