***************Nestlé products to Boycott in the UK.....................********

[LadySherlockofLGJ]

Coffees:

Nescafé, Gold Blend, Blend 37, Alta Rica, Cap Colombie, Cappuccino, Decaff, Fine Blend

Dairy Products:

Carnation, Chambourcy, Coffee-Mate, Fussells, Ideal, Milkmaid, Tip-Top, Bonjour, Chamby, Creme Vienna, Darlky, Flanby, Fulcreem Custard Hippopota, Jacky, Dremly, Le Grande, Nouvelle, Robot

Confectionary and Snacks:

Kit Kat, Rowntree, Aero, After Eights, Lyons Maid ice cream, Polo, Smarties, Animal Bar, Baci Chocolate, Black Magic, Blue Riband, Breakaway, Cabana, Caramac, Caramel Wafer, Cello, Creamola, Dairy Crunch, Drifter, Eclipse, Good News, Festival, Fruit Pastilles, Fox's Glacier Mints, Gray & Dunn biscuits, Henri Nestlé collection, Jellytots, Karima, Lion bar, Matchmakers, Milky Bar, Montego, Munchies, Novo, Quality Street, Rolo, RPC, Savana, Secret, Toffee Crisp, Toffo, Tooty Frooties, Walnut Whip, Weekend, Yorkie

Contact Lens:

Care, Alcon

Seasonings:

British Shoyu, British vinegars, Cook-in-the-Pot, Dufrais, Sarsons

Mineral Water:

Perrier, Ashbourne, Contrexèville, Buxton, Vittel, Bittelloise

Other Drinks:

Milo, Build-up, Caro, Elevenses, Flo-Mix, Libby's C Drinks, Mix- O-Choc, Moonshine, Nescoré, Nesfit, Nesquik, Slender, Superquik, Um Bongo

Processed Meals:

Findus, Buitoni pasta and Canned foods, Crosse & Blackwell, Maggi, Alphabetti, Bonne Cuisine, Dish of the Day, Eskimo, Four Seasons, Healthy Balance, Lean Cuisine, Pasta choice, Rice & Things, Scrunchies, Waistline

Spreads and Pickles:

Branston Pickle, Gales honey, Holgates honey, Pan Yan, Sun-Pat, Tartex, Vessen paté

Cereals:

Shredded Wheat, Shreddies, Cheerios, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Cocoa Puffs, Crisp Rice, Energen low calorie wheatflakes, Force, Golden Grahams, Honey Nut Cheerios, Lucky Charms, Team, Robertson's cornflakes, Sunny Jim, Wheatflakes

Cosmetics:

L'Oreal, Lancome, Claudel

Pet foods:

Friskies, Go-Cat, Go-Dog

No, the problem's not just the water.

It's that they give free formula to women with newborns, lauding it as the best thing, not that dirty breastfeeding malarkey - women in the west all use this formula and look how succesful and perfect their lives are, etc, etc.

Then when the babies are on the free formula and their mother's milk's dried up, they start charging for it.

So mothers eke out the powder to make it go further.

Class act, Nestle. Not.

This is something I feel very strongly about, and I keep my little BMA products list in my purse for reference . If I can give up Toffee Crisps, anyone can!

I live in NestleTown - the train station has enormous hoardings up saying 'Home of Nestle UK'. Grrrr.

And can I just pre-empt anyone who is of a mind to turn this into one of those threads, this is about Nestle's appalling marketing practices in the developing world, not about formula per se.

green & black organic chocolate, peeps. it's the only way to be :).

HAving worked as a volunteer in areas of extreme poverty, where contrary to popular beliefs, mothers in extreme poverty some times see their children die of starvation even when they are breastfeed (there's only so much milk a very starved body can produce) I think that many mothers experiencing the problem would be grateful for the formula, even if it is just to eat it themselves, sometimes the red tape involved in relabelling donations for such problematic areas can be the difference between life and death:

Have you ever been asked to take with you a twin new born? I saw a mother do that, she was sure only one of them would survive, unfortunately... she might have been right.

So, I'm a bit cautious at joining some well intentioned campaigns about the importance of preseving breastfeeding when sometimes that free formula would be the only food a mother would get...

Hope you're not all going to boycott me! Couldn't possibly change my mn name!

Haven't read this all btw.

We don't conusme any of the products in the list... so not sure I can boicott Nestle...

But Chandra, that's the point - it's not free. It's not a donation, not past the first couple of weeks, anyway. The mothers have to pay for it once the free samples run out.

I haven't bought any Nestle for about 10 years now - I find it's easy to avoid except condensed milk - I can't seem to find any other brand (I only use it for one recipe whihc I make about 3 times a year but it still galls me)

the mothers I'm talking about can not afford to buy food. Do you know that there is people who lives out of eating the fruit peels from other people's rubish? Sometimes I believe that some people's ideas of poverty are actually rather generous.

Chandra, formula is NOT free in the developing world.

Nestle give out samples, just enough to ensure the mother's breast milk dries up, then when they run out mothers are expected to buy it.

i think chandra had dealt w/mothers, however, whose milk dries up b/c of starvation - formula or not.

Do you know that mothers can eat that formula?

oh big whup thanks to Nestle for that then

Phew - Branston Pickle no longer on the list!

Yes, they could eat it - for a few days until it ran out. And then, as you so rightly point out, they would not have the means to buy it.

I am well aware that there are women out there in a state of malnutrition that means they can't breastfeed at all. But what this campaign is about is the sabotage of those that could by a company that does not have any altruistic motives regarding 'donations'. Nestle are not a charity and do not operate as one, no matter what their PR would have us believe.

Think I'd better parp myself now.

Enid, it depends, if you have to kill the baby to protect breastfeeding, I have a clear idea of what comes first. Again, I'm talking of extreme poverty not mothers who have the resources to pay for formula... besides... many children in the developing world are raised on herbal teas or rice water if there are problems with breastfeeding, so it is not just a dichotomy between formula and breast milk.

I'm leaving this thread now.

Unfortunately, I've been there, too, Chandra.

It's not always so straightforward. In some areas, you also have the problem of a mother who has AIDS/HIV and may or may not have passed it on to her child.

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Now really going

Wow! I'm doing great on that list until it gets to the chocolate bars!! (and cheerios) Don't have anything else on that list.

Sorry, physically unable to give up kitkats

So the position seems to be more complicated than we thought?
Well, the boycott is still worthwhile, to get Nestle to review their policies, surely? They could perhaps come up with something more constructive than their current policies.

Whilst I am utterly sympathetic to the points that Chandra has raised - and tbh I hadn't thought about it before, and it's interesting to have another angle on it - the main point is surely that a LOT of the areas in which Nestle (and a couple of other corporations, one American and one Japanese, iirc) are doing their extreme marketing are NOT starvation areas. I mean, there are vast swathes of the developing world where this is happening where total and utter starvation is not the issue. They need to be stopped in those areas and the starvation needs to be dealt with by agencies, not by a corporation with no scruples.

Is this because I mentioned the Peanut Butter Kitkats?

You don't need to be starving in a refugee camp or picking fruit peelings off a rubbish tip to be unable to afford an extra 5 bucks a week for a tin of formula.

Am a little amazed, tbh, that anyone can interpret this as objecting to the charitable donation of formula milk to mothers who, through starvation and/or illness, are physiologically incapable of producing their own milk.

It's about sales tactics. Sales and marketing and PR and all that venal shit. Not about denying milk to starving mothers and children.

Paaaaaaaaarp.

Bugger, L'Oreal have just bought Body Shop so does that mean the Body Shop is now boycottable as well?

yes - c'mon over here
\link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1372&threadid=156058\Body Shop thread}