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Hamnet

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LlynTegid · 05/01/2026 08:56

Hoping to see it at the weekend, Jessie Buckley has been excellent in anything of hers I have seen.

Will be interested in other's thoughts once they have seen it.

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SpringBulbsPop · 24/01/2026 20:47

6namechange3 · 24/01/2026 14:09

I saw it with my young adult daughter, I cried a lot and had to hold her for a very long time after, then we discussed how her brother looked like Hamnet when he was young. More crying. Was I being emotionally manipulated, probably but I had to give him a massive hug when I got home too ( he was gaming and looked slightly non plussed!) . How did people live in a time when there precious children could be snatched away so easily

Some people still do 😔

Disturbia81 · 24/01/2026 22:01

HappyTomato · 24/01/2026 18:55

Saw this at the weekend and thought it was fantastic.
jt was emotional through the obvious bits.
the end scenes at the globe absolutely got me though. I was finding it hard not to sob out loud! Had to hold my breath and look away from the screen several times to try and not sob. I managed to hold it in with silent tears. Jessie Buckley was utterly wonderful.

It was so emotional wasn’t it!

Toosoon12345 · 31/01/2026 09:37

I was desperate to watch this and went last night with DD. Have to say I was disappointed and didn’t find it as moving as I’d hoped, even a bit drawn out in parts.
Boy who played Hamnet though was incredible

renthead · 31/01/2026 10:03

I loved the ending, I thought it was very moving. And there were some excellent performances. But yes overall it was slow and generally underwhelming. However I felt the same way about the book.

SpringBulbsPop · 31/01/2026 11:12

renthead · 31/01/2026 10:03

I loved the ending, I thought it was very moving. And there were some excellent performances. But yes overall it was slow and generally underwhelming. However I felt the same way about the book.

In think it was just massively overhyped

BigKissByeBye · 31/01/2026 11:52

I read the novel whenever it came out, and, though I tend to like Maggie O'Farrell's earlier work, I thought this was tiresomely 'manic pixie dream witch' stuff, all Agnes being earthy and wise and woodland-creature-y as distinct from the townspeople. Also, the prose took so much time over every single Elizabethan detail (women's caps, glovestretchers, woven bee skeps etc) that reading it (and I am someone who likes a slow, non-plotty novel) was like wading through jam.

The film I found uninvolving, despite liking Chloe Zhao's other work, and admiring Jessie Buckley (who was astonishing in Women Talking). I think that without MOF's prose, it just felt like a standard costume drama, with a good cast, but one in which I never suspended my disbelief at all.

And it just got some stuff wrong. I don't mean the front crawl, the Harris hawk or the echinacea, or people saying 'OK'. The Elizabethans just weren't us. They believed in things we don't believe in. Their religious world was in flux between Catholicism and Protestantism, with key things like purgatory being disinvented in the shift. Their lives were different. Many brides were pregnant at the altar, as the marriage contract was regarded by many as license to have sex. Between one third and half of all children died before they hit puberty, so Hamnet's death was not singular, it was a (to us) shockingly ordinary thing.

Shakespeare's players are highly unlikely to have been fluffing their lines that much in a rehearsal close to the first performance -- it was a demanding, highly skilled role, they needed astonishing memories as they had to have dozens of parts in their repertoire at any one time, and the acting style was loud and fast, even in a play we think of as introspective. It had to be, they were competing with bear baiting and public executions. They weren't methody. The film's groundlings were way too clean, and well-behaved (no one would have been shushing Agnes, they'd have been shouting 'Get on with it, love!' at Hamlet!)

And the stuff that the film had to do to make Hamnet's death relevant to Hamlet felt like a bit of a botch job.

Shakespeare was writing a stream of comedies at the time of Hamnet's death (and some people have suggested that all those separated twins, who often believe the other is dead, like Olivia in Twelfth Night, are in some sense about Hamnet and Judith).

Hamlet is from several years later, and the lead was played by the superstar of his day, Richard Burbage, who was in his 30s, not a cute young blond who might remind a grieving mother of her dead boy grown up. (And the backcloth wouldn't have been a wood!)

The amount of chopping around the film has to do to make Hamlet, a revenge tragedy with an early existentialist stuck into it, anything that might plausibly allow it to be a play that is about a father grieving a lost son is a bit clumsy. That scene with the Ghost and Hamlet is mostly the Ghost talking about his horrible torments in Purgatory and telling Hamlet to revenge his murder, but not to hurt his mother, even though she's shagging his murderer!

Jessie Buckley might well say 'How is this about my son?' Because it isn't!

Tocsin · 31/01/2026 13:15

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AmazingGraced · 31/01/2026 22:10

I went to see it today feeling a bit trepidant due to the mixed reviews. I was full on shaking and sobbing at several points. I found it very moving. The beginning didn’t really work for me but it got stronger and stronger.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 31/01/2026 22:18

BigKissByeBye · 31/01/2026 11:52

I read the novel whenever it came out, and, though I tend to like Maggie O'Farrell's earlier work, I thought this was tiresomely 'manic pixie dream witch' stuff, all Agnes being earthy and wise and woodland-creature-y as distinct from the townspeople. Also, the prose took so much time over every single Elizabethan detail (women's caps, glovestretchers, woven bee skeps etc) that reading it (and I am someone who likes a slow, non-plotty novel) was like wading through jam.

The film I found uninvolving, despite liking Chloe Zhao's other work, and admiring Jessie Buckley (who was astonishing in Women Talking). I think that without MOF's prose, it just felt like a standard costume drama, with a good cast, but one in which I never suspended my disbelief at all.

And it just got some stuff wrong. I don't mean the front crawl, the Harris hawk or the echinacea, or people saying 'OK'. The Elizabethans just weren't us. They believed in things we don't believe in. Their religious world was in flux between Catholicism and Protestantism, with key things like purgatory being disinvented in the shift. Their lives were different. Many brides were pregnant at the altar, as the marriage contract was regarded by many as license to have sex. Between one third and half of all children died before they hit puberty, so Hamnet's death was not singular, it was a (to us) shockingly ordinary thing.

Shakespeare's players are highly unlikely to have been fluffing their lines that much in a rehearsal close to the first performance -- it was a demanding, highly skilled role, they needed astonishing memories as they had to have dozens of parts in their repertoire at any one time, and the acting style was loud and fast, even in a play we think of as introspective. It had to be, they were competing with bear baiting and public executions. They weren't methody. The film's groundlings were way too clean, and well-behaved (no one would have been shushing Agnes, they'd have been shouting 'Get on with it, love!' at Hamlet!)

And the stuff that the film had to do to make Hamnet's death relevant to Hamlet felt like a bit of a botch job.

Shakespeare was writing a stream of comedies at the time of Hamnet's death (and some people have suggested that all those separated twins, who often believe the other is dead, like Olivia in Twelfth Night, are in some sense about Hamnet and Judith).

Hamlet is from several years later, and the lead was played by the superstar of his day, Richard Burbage, who was in his 30s, not a cute young blond who might remind a grieving mother of her dead boy grown up. (And the backcloth wouldn't have been a wood!)

The amount of chopping around the film has to do to make Hamlet, a revenge tragedy with an early existentialist stuck into it, anything that might plausibly allow it to be a play that is about a father grieving a lost son is a bit clumsy. That scene with the Ghost and Hamlet is mostly the Ghost talking about his horrible torments in Purgatory and telling Hamlet to revenge his murder, but not to hurt his mother, even though she's shagging his murderer!

Jessie Buckley might well say 'How is this about my son?' Because it isn't!

I don’t think high rates of infant mortality meant that parents grieved their children any less - or have I misunderstood?

Also, the book never claims to be anything other than fiction.

unbelievablybelievable · 31/01/2026 22:28

I did enjoy it. But no where near as much as the book. I was sobbing non-stop when reading but only shed a tear watching the ending in the cinema.

I found they had to cut so much out (presumably as it's long enough as is) that there was a lot that didn't make sense. The father's abuse was only loosely portrayed. The stepmothers hatred barely mentioned. Will had gone off to make gloves for the playhouse then was suddenly writing Hamlet! My friend (who hasn't read the book) didn't even realise his sisters were in the house. The relationship once he started in London was rushed through - not given the time it deserved like in the book.

I will admit the acting was excellent though.

BigKissByeBye · 31/01/2026 22:31

BlueEyedBogWitch · 31/01/2026 22:18

I don’t think high rates of infant mortality meant that parents grieved their children any less - or have I misunderstood?

Also, the book never claims to be anything other than fiction.

I said nothing about love. You just didn’t assume you were going to keep them to adulthood, the way we do. Child deaths were normal.

And I wasn’t discussing the novel.

(Also, it’s Viola who is the twin who thinks her twin is dead in Twelfth Night.)

unbelievablybelievable · 31/01/2026 22:35

BigKissByeBye · 31/01/2026 22:31

I said nothing about love. You just didn’t assume you were going to keep them to adulthood, the way we do. Child deaths were normal.

And I wasn’t discussing the novel.

(Also, it’s Viola who is the twin who thinks her twin is dead in Twelfth Night.)

But Agnes assumed she'd keep Hamnet to adulthood because of the 2 children standing at her deathbed. Not that losing Judith would have been any better, but more accepted because she was the sickly one. And Agnes strongly believed in her premonitions.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 31/01/2026 22:37

BigKissByeBye · 31/01/2026 22:31

I said nothing about love. You just didn’t assume you were going to keep them to adulthood, the way we do. Child deaths were normal.

And I wasn’t discussing the novel.

(Also, it’s Viola who is the twin who thinks her twin is dead in Twelfth Night.)

I said ‘grieved’ not ‘loved’.

I don’t know, I just don’t like the assumption that people in the past were used to child death. I’m sure any mother in history would have mourned just as much as we would.

My gt grandma was a Victorian who lost nine of her twelve children. Infant mortality rates were high then, but I know each loss broke her heart.

BigKissByeBye · 01/02/2026 00:44

BlueEyedBogWitch · 31/01/2026 22:37

I said ‘grieved’ not ‘loved’.

I don’t know, I just don’t like the assumption that people in the past were used to child death. I’m sure any mother in history would have mourned just as much as we would.

My gt grandma was a Victorian who lost nine of her twelve children. Infant mortality rates were high then, but I know each loss broke her heart.

It’s not an assumption. The Elizabethans were used to child death. We can’t know how exactly they grieved, and we’ve no reason to think they grieved any less than we do, but we know child death wasn’t unexpected with a child mortality rate that high. It would have felt less like being singled out by fate, more like an awful, but quite ordinary blow. Half of their children had died by the age Hamnet Shakespeare was. Hamnet, Judith and Susanna would have had playmates die. But again, that was in the context of poor sanitation, no antibiotics and no vaccinations against epidemics, so illness killed adults quickly and horribly too. And they died at home. People were familiar with death. Deaths ended marriages about as often as divorce does now.

LindorDoubleChoc · 02/02/2026 14:22

I was in the strangely unmoved camp too. I saw it last night and haven't thought about it much since leaving the cinema, so that's not a good sign. To me it looked like a performance of a film about Shakespeare's wife and children. It looked like an exercise everyone was going through. The cinematography, the production design, the acting, everything all felt, I dunno, formulaic to me. I barely cried. I was very annoyed by the entire audience reaching out their hands to the dying Hamlet at the end, that was some extreme cynical heart string tugging going on there.

I'd give a 6.5 out of 10.

LindorDoubleChoc · 02/02/2026 14:34

Ha! Just read the Nicholas Barber BBC review linked earlier in the thread - he says it so much better than me!

teaandtoastwouldbenice · 02/02/2026 22:20

I found the book at bit slow and not very moving.

I absolutely loved the film, to begin with I thought they were missing so much out, then felt they had taken the core and the soul of the book and Jessie B portrayed it so beautifully! The shock, the anger, the loud grief versus Paul Ms more subdued role. I hated his earring (!) but otherwise thought he let the leading woman shine.

I cried and I don’t really do more than a lump in throat at films.

JSMill · 08/02/2026 08:13

It’s disappointing that Paul Mescal didn’t get an Oscar nomination. However I didn’t really consider his performance as award worthy until he was on stage at the end so maybe that was enough for those deciding on the nominations. That was an amazing performance though.

Greenfinch7 · 11/02/2026 16:51

I found it completely unmoving, fake, boring and manipulative. The only part that got to me were the words of Shakespeare- the rest of it just didn't seem well written or conceived.

I probably shouldn't have gone, because I tend to find period acting unconvincing- self consciously smudged faces, stilted language mixed with anachronisms, dirty cloths being squeezed into buckets with drippy sounds. I particularly hated the scene of the children playing and the love scenes, just seemed so fake to me.

Gingercar · 11/02/2026 17:00

We loved it. I absolutely sobbed, but partly because it was very close to the bone, having just lost my mum at Xmas. But I thought it was beautifully filmed and a lovely film.

JSMill · 11/02/2026 18:13

Gingercar · 11/02/2026 17:00

We loved it. I absolutely sobbed, but partly because it was very close to the bone, having just lost my mum at Xmas. But I thought it was beautifully filmed and a lovely film.

That must have been very tough for you. Ricky Gervais’ Netflix show ‘After Life’ came out not long after my dm died and I found it unbearable to watch at the time. I did later watch it and found it very thought provoking.

Gingercar · 11/02/2026 21:36

I never watched Afterlife, I always meant to. Perhaps I’ll wait a while!

BG2015 · 14/02/2026 18:16

I loved it. The book of course was better, but I really enjoyed the film.

gruit · 15/02/2026 12:26

loved it and sobbed like a baby

TeaRoseTallulah · 15/02/2026 19:50

Womaninhouse17 · 13/01/2026 18:31

I wish I'd gone to see Song Sung Blue instead.

Me too😂

What a load of hype!