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Mother! (Spoiler Alert!!!) **Title Edited by MNHQ**

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NikiBabe · 12/09/2017 00:56

Released on Friday. Has an 18 certificate. Only on at 8:40pm daily at my cinema from. Friday.

Quite excited.

Anyone else going to see?

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NikiBabe · 16/09/2017 21:42

I'm not sure I should say this but given this is a parenting website alot may find it very disturbing so I'll describe the worst bit of the film.

Spolier!

After she gives birth without medical attention, he wants to take it to show his followers and she refuses. He sits in a chair and watches and waits infront of her offering her no help. He just stares at her silently waiting for her to fall asleep. When she eventually does he takes the baby and passes it around his followers and you hear and audible crack and the baby instantly stops crying. When she gets to the baby she finds it skeleton left in pieces and bloody and the followers are eating pieces of the baby. It is sickening. I guess that is also another biblical reference, Christ was God's son and John 6:56 says He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

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Pastacube · 16/09/2017 21:46

thanks for that niki it sounds pretty dire will give it a miss!

GorgeousLadyOfWrangling · 16/09/2017 21:46

^ why I won't watch it. I would ask HQ to put spoiler warnings in thread title though. I don't care as was never going to pay good money to see it but others might see GOD at the same time they see spoiler iyswim (p1) and certainly I haven't put warnings on my own subsequent posts.

RabidHarpy · 16/09/2017 21:49

I really fancied this film but I don't do much now.

I loved roommate's Baby but think this may be a bit much.

NikiBabe · 16/09/2017 21:50

I thought it was going to be akin to Rosemary's Baby

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GorgeousLadyOfWrangling · 16/09/2017 21:55

I thought it was going to be about a bad mad MIL (LaPfeiffer) not mother earth. Who'd Adam and eve it?

NikiBabe · 16/09/2017 21:56

Lol @gorgeousladyofwrangling love the pun!

Ive asked mnhq to put a spoiler warning in the thread title.

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NikiBabe · 16/09/2017 21:58

Oh and humans have wrecked mother earths beautiful creation. We had a garden and we paved it and polluted it.

The vistors wreck the home mother earth did all the work on and in a sense created.

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PacificDogwod · 16/09/2017 22:11

There are certain things I just don't need to have on my retina or my memory bank.
This movie would seem stop be one of them.

Seems a case of disturbingly stating the obvious... Hmm

PacificDogwod · 16/09/2017 22:12

...seem to be...

No idea what AC did there.

Neenaribeena · 17/09/2017 00:09

All mums and expectant mums: I urge you PLEASE do not see the film Mother! I consider myself a resilient and level-headed person and I can honestly say that I've never been so sickened and utterly disturbed by anything in my life. I've had an outright panic attack and been on the verge of throwing up on the way home from seeing it.

As noted above, it contains a totally unnecessary and graphic scene in which a newborn baby is killed and cannibalised by a mob. I cannot understand how the film passed any censorship and am honestly terrified for mothers, or anyone with empathy, to watch this film. I believe it could do serious and long lasting mental harm to grown adults and dread to think what could happen to a pre- or post-natal woman. I think it's completely irresponsible of the film board to have allowed this part of the scene to be included, given the undeniable damage it could do to a vulnerable person. You see close up shots of the very real newborn baby just before this happens, and it was like reliving by own labour and watching it happen to my own son. I doubt i will sleep tonight.

I'm not a prude and I love a horror movie or a thriller as much as the next person but this film is barbaric, horrific and disgraceful. Please please take my advice and keep it out of your lives and out of your head. I just wish I had known beforehand that this was what it was about.

SleepingStandingUp · 17/09/2017 00:10

Yay, we've done sppilers5so I can join in.

I watched it alone. It got a bit giggly in the audience as it got absurd and with the baby dying. So absurd I think it helped balance put what would otherwise be horrific.

Having read the theory on tube way home (I picked up some God delusion vibes) I kinda liked it. But then I loved Black Swan and I wanted to see Nah but didn't get chance

NikiBabe · 17/09/2017 12:41

Did you see this poster? The hole in her chest looks like the hole that kept appearing in the floor.

Mother! (Spoiler Alert!!!) **Title Edited by MNHQ**
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ChocoholicsAnonymous · 17/09/2017 20:04

One positive thing about the film, I liked that it showed breastfeeding in it

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 17/09/2017 22:15

Neenaribeena

I know someone who had the same reaction as you. I left the cinema before the end so didn't see this.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 18/09/2017 00:10

I hated The Black Swan but it was just nonsense rather than being offensive. However having googled Aronofsky's other work I think he is a director I will avoid in the future. Requiem for a Dream sounds irredeemably misogynistic and pornographic.

SleepingStandingUp · 18/09/2017 00:15

Despite being the kind of person who cried at the Mccain advert before the movie, and having had a critically ill baby not all that long ago, the baby scene didn't both me as much as I would have assumed. I wonder if the awkward titters of laughter diffused it into abstract weirdness? I had picked up the God / Jesus vibe too by then although not properly

GorgeousLadyOfWrangling · 18/09/2017 00:24

^ Requiem for a Dream is an incredible film and you come out reeling. It is harrowing, absolutely, and what happens to Marion is bloody awful but sadly realistic. DA co-wrote with the original author of the book which was described iirc as a blow to the solar plexus. It is dark and nightmarish and shocking yes but so is drug addiction. Clint Mansell's score (first use of Lux Aeterna ) is mesmerising.
Ellen Burstyn was nominated for an Oscar. She lost out to Julia Roberts' Erin Brokovitch. I was gutted.

All that said, I have only seen it once. It was also a psychological freak out film but it stayed with me for a long long time. DH and I didn't speak for about ten minutes afterwards, it felt like you had been through the ringer with the characters.

NikiBabe · 18/09/2017 01:49

One positive thing about the film, I liked that it showed breastfeeding in it

Yeah baby had a nice nutritious feed to benefit everyone who ate him shortly after. I dont think that's redeeming at all. In fact the depiction of newborn innocence and dependence on its loving mother made it all the more sick to me.

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Mrsjohnmurphy · 18/09/2017 02:28

I loved kill list and requiem for a dream was amazing, this sounds right up my alley

sakura06 · 18/09/2017 07:18

Oh wow, I'm terrified of horror films, so had not intended to see this (but I did want to know if it was any good). I definitely won't now. Sounds horrible 😞

stinkingbishop · 18/09/2017 09:13

Was I the only one who thought of Maui and the heart of Te Fiti?!

I saw it last night. Still torn as to whether it's an intriguing allegory or just a load of heavy handed pretentious sixth form level tosh (complete with the mob quoting from Lord of the Flies, the JL character referencing the apocalypse etc). But it's stayed with me, which is good, and whatever Jennifer Lawrence thinks she's acting, she's doing it well.

In terms of the 'take you back to the beginning'...I assume, if this is about humanity's wanton destruction of mother earth, God either takes us all off to another planet to start again, or it's about regeneration after a nuclear holocaust or like what happened after the asteroid which wiped out the dinosaurs, or that the cosmos is in some infinite expansion/contraction/big bang/expansion loop.

Or the whole thing is evidence that DA lurks on Mumsnet and it's what happens when family descend on your house and stay too long and just get really annoying Wink.

NikiBabe · 18/09/2017 10:25

@Sakura it's not even a horror film. It's just bloody madness.

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sakura06 · 18/09/2017 23:25

@NikiBabe Thanks for the heads up!

raisedbyguineapigs · 19/09/2017 16:11

I'm not sure if I liked it or not, but I'm still running about it! I listened to Mark Kermode afterwards and agree with him. I saw it as a conflict between the Earth and God. That mother earth is doing the hard work to make the world paradise but all anyone worships is a man and his two books (God). They destroy paradise while worshipping Him and ignoring Mother Earth. When the baby is born, he says 'I am his father' and she says 'I am his mother' so it's a conflict over whether Christ is more important as the son of God or the son of Earth. The gendruesome child murder is obviously the Eucharist which I found horrible and completely ott and needlessly baity. I didn't quite get why it restarted either but I thought it may be that even when Earth is destroyed you can have a new creation, but likely the same thing will happen again. Or maybe I spent too long in Catholic school Smile