Women only tube carriages

[labamba18]

A petition has reached 10,000 signatures for women only tube carriages.

This makes me so angry. I remember being harassed on public transport as a young woman and hoped that things would get better not worse.

But, as much as I think it’s awful that women still have to put up with this in 2025, I hate the idea of separate carriages. It feels like the laziest way of trying to stop the problem.

What do you think?

No. We make ourselves small and remove ourselves from the problem rather than addressing the problem. Which is male violence and entitlement. I would like to see carriages policed and proper consequences for males who cannot behave. A long shot I know. Also these days ‘women only’ carriages would have pervey males in frocks to put up with too,

I wonder if that might be because women are more empowered to report sexual assault/rape and have greater faith in the justice system in the USA? than in perhaps some other countries where either next to nothing is done; or the police themselves might be a bit of a worry; or in the ultimate bizarre twist, the raped woman can end up in prison herself for sex outside marriage.

I understand your thinking, but I just think women only carriages are the thin end of the wedge to segregation which ends up as women as second class citizens and the women who don't comply are seen as fair game for anything goes.

@beadystar I think it’s fair to say most standard trains or underground trains are safe for everyone using them. What % of journeys result in an issue for women? Reported because anything else is guessing really.

Having lost a very close family member to rape and murder in a public space, i actually think these are needed.
Of course it's not the fucking answer. The answer is for society to change.And for men to stop being rapists and murderers.

But as it stands, this isn't going to happen, and in fact, it's only going to get worse.

The internet is just a breeding ground for this sort of behaviour. The current rhetoric in politics and the media is weighted towards andrew Tate, Tommy Robinson and the vile stuff that the Daily Mail, Times and Express spew out.

We are hated. We are viewed as sluts. This isn't going to change in the next ten years, so we need to protect ourselves.

Single carriages are the short term answer to potentially save some of us from the shit we have to endure
They will probably save some of us from being murdered or raped. Of course they shouldn't have to exist. But what else choice do we have.

As a man just the fact we need to discuss this makes my blood boil... I would hope I am one of the so-called "good ones" and would never harass or stand by and allow a lady to be harassed or worse.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but society has missed a step and changed for the worse, men need to self police and not allow creeps harass or intimidated women in any situation. Too many men stand by and watch things happen to women, quoting feminism and eqaul rights as their particular cop out. More men need to stand up and develop a spine, I look at it as a dutie and karma, I have a daughter and if I would expect someone to assist her in a difficult situation its incumbent on me to do the same for some else's daughter, wife or sister.

The long-term answer is much more. It's difficult
As a society, we need to raise boys that aren't violent and entitled. That aren't little misogeneous who view women as lesser.
That don't have access to violent porn, or films. That see girls and women as equals.
Who don't equate masculine with violence, and view male roles.as caring.
We are so far away from this with the rhetoric of reform and their followers.

Single sex carriages aren’t the answer to the behaviour of men.

perhaps there should be men only carriages?

No A lot of people don’t report rape due to the conviction rates so if anything rape is even higher there.

This survey is from 2023, I don't know whether the BTP has done a more recent one.
https://www.btp.police.uk/news/btp/news/england/over-a-third-of-women-have-been-sexually-harassed-on-their-commute-to-work/

Yes, they can be crowded into one carriage and women can have the rest. Not the other way round.

I agree with pp's who've said that it would just mean that if women didn't go in the women-only carriage they'd be considered fair game and blamed for not crowding in there.

No, deal with the men who can't behave.

A truism the world over though, no?

Why do you earmark the USA as particularly bad out of everywhere you have ever lived or traveled the world over?

I mean, you could be right.

I traveled widely as a young woman and lived and worked alone in many different countries for months at a time - but time moves on and we all have different experiences and it is impossible gain an impression of absolutely everywhere and even then it would only be an impression. Thankfully I have never been raped - but regular low level sexual assault, fear and narrow escapes. .. happened much more regularly in certain countries. I suppose there is also the distinction between stranger danger and dating men with terrible attitudes to consent... The dating side I would not be able to comment on at all.

What is happening in the USA in particular that gives you this stand out impression that it is the worst?

Drugs & the prevalence of drugs (thinking both spiking and having to deal with men under the influence) etc have all changed since my day.

No, deal with the men who can't behave.

exactly. It would be "well, what do you expect if you don't go in the women's carriage?" in court and men would get off with these crimes more than they do now.

They have women only carriages in the tram in Dubai. I have to say I thought it was great, when a man got on they didn’t realise the women chased him out!

Dubai, eh? so so so good on human rights, let alone women's rights.

I wouldn't be copying any of their policies, tbh.

They have women only carriages in Japan. Not saying it’s the right thing to do but the transport system has adapted to make it work

https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2025/november/live-facial-recognition-technology-has-resulted-in-several-arrests-in-piccadilly-gardens/

It is being used in Manchester in Piccadilly gardens.
What the courts do with people and whether they can impose restrictions on use of public transport might be a different argument.

But again women are being affected and the more abuse is tolerated (by providing work rounds for grim behaviour) then the longer it goes on.

Humans of both sexes should not tolerate bad behaviour from any one.

Can’t we have a “noisy selfish twats who refuse to use headphones” carriage?

How would this differ from the 'quiet' carriages currently in use?

Yes, I have seen "women and children only" carriages in Dubai. No idea how they are policed. The reported crime rate there is low anyway.

Also I have used a women-only sleeper train carriage in France. Felt safer than I would have otherwise.

So if a child is having a massive trantrum and full on melt down the mother is stuck with the child while the father gets to relax in the other carriage? yes if not busy and they get a seat

What?
As family people travel together in normal carriage unless they don't want to. This is not some mandatory segregation. The women and child carriage existence does not mean women cannot travel in standard carriage...