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Mind-blowing article about Cindy Bi and the $5Billion dollar surrogacy industry in the US

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defrazzled · 04/09/2025 22:39

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2025.09.04-121658/www.wired.com/story/the-baby-died-whose-fault-is-it-surrogate-pregnancy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2025.09.04-121658/www.wired.com/story/the-baby-died-whose-fault-is-it-surrogate-pregnancy/
I just can't comprehend this at all.

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defrazzled · 05/09/2025 07:35

thanks, I missed that somehow!

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Arran2024 · 05/09/2025 08:45

I read that yesterday, and looked her up on X, where she has posted furiously about it.

What an absolutely chilling piece.

I'm horrified by the very concept that anyone can make such demands without having to make any such sacrifices themselves.

When women personally get pregnant, if it goes wrong and the baby dies, they might privately berate themselves over something they did. But they don't sue themselves and ruin their own lives. But in surrogacy, the purchaser can make all sorts of demands - i have read of other cases where they specify no pain relief in labour for example - and then find something the surrogate did that they blame her for and then sue her.

The purchasers are rich and the surrogates are not. Both are playing with fire imo but all the power is with the purchaser.

Just awful.

Namitynamename · 05/09/2025 17:37

Arran2024 · 05/09/2025 08:45

I read that yesterday, and looked her up on X, where she has posted furiously about it.

What an absolutely chilling piece.

I'm horrified by the very concept that anyone can make such demands without having to make any such sacrifices themselves.

When women personally get pregnant, if it goes wrong and the baby dies, they might privately berate themselves over something they did. But they don't sue themselves and ruin their own lives. But in surrogacy, the purchaser can make all sorts of demands - i have read of other cases where they specify no pain relief in labour for example - and then find something the surrogate did that they blame her for and then sue her.

The purchasers are rich and the surrogates are not. Both are playing with fire imo but all the power is with the purchaser.

Just awful.

It reminds me of olden times when men would blame women for not producing an heir or seek to punish them (Henry 8) because they had that power/entitlement. Or some parts of the world/time periods when women would be blamed for practicing witchcraft etc if they had still births. Clearly reading the article her own father did something less extreme but similar (it says he abandoned his/her mother wife for a mistress when his wife wouldn't give him a son). But that's no excuse for the absolutely deranged way she is acting.
But now that women can also commission other women to bear their children (the way men could and do) it's the same entitlement.

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