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Andrew Tate wants to be UK Prime Minister and is supported by Trump

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dayoffvibes · 21/02/2025 13:53

I've been following this story about Trump pressuring Romanian officials to drop the charges against the Tates with absolute disgust and now this article has come out with more (worse) details of their fully fledged partnership.

I feel utter despair with Trump over his behaviour towards Zelensky but that's on another discussion. As to this Andrew Tate issue what can be done? It's bad enough these misogynists are ruling the world right now without this toad being welcome into the fold and going into politics.

It's so depressing. I remember being a teenager in the late 90's and always assuming things would continue to get better for women and fully assuming that misogyny would be all but wiped out in my lifetime. Instead things are worse than ever and prospects are looking worse than sinister.

Does anyone have any hopeful thoughts?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/feb/21/andrew-tate-trump-administration?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

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username299 · 21/02/2025 13:58

Yeah, we're going to come under a tsunami of misogyny so buckle up. Vance was recorded recently encouraging men to be men and we all know what that means.

Social media is already a misogynist cess pit and the gloves are off as it's no longer being moderated.

VAWAG is already sky high in the US and I can see it getting much worse.

HashtagBlessedHashtagGrateful · 21/02/2025 14:17

Fucking hell. It just keeps getting bleaker and bleaker.

Wildflowers99 · 21/02/2025 14:19

As a woman I feel trapped between the outright knuckle dragging misogynists like Tate, and the insidious ‘men can be women, I represent you all because it’s my right as a man’ left wing misogynists who want to creep dubious ideologies onto us and our kids.

If someone like Tate became PM, I would leave the country, and I’m not joking or exaggerating. I have (limited) options and I would take one of those.

swimlyn · 21/02/2025 14:34

"It's so depressing. I remember being a teenager in the late 90's and always assuming things would continue to get better for women and fully assuming that misogyny would be all but wiped out in my lifetime. Instead things are worse than ever and prospects are looking worse than sinister."

Totally agree, and unfortunately little positive to add I'm afraid. Both of my married daughters were tricked by misogynist wankers. I blame mobile phones (secrecy) and parents where either one was very controlling. (plus the shit on the internet of course)

Only one daughter has chosen to stay. (for 'love' and the kids)

Just a question of time for her too I guess...

menopausalfart · 21/02/2025 14:38

I'm hoping that all this misogyny is one last hurrah from a dying breed.

Crikeyalmighty · 21/02/2025 14:41

@Wildflowers99 indeed- one reason we will carry on working and having our business( and early 60s now) is it gives us the income and options for nomad visas to many places-

Sodthesystem · 21/02/2025 14:45

Really sounds like bullshit tbh.
Not sure why trump would want to get involved with Tate.

And of course there's no way the brits would let him near Parliament so it's a non issue.

Ted27 · 21/02/2025 14:46

Well Trump and Musk do not understand British politics for a start.
Tate cannot 'run' for Prime Minister in the way any old misogynistic, racist, rapist can run for President in the USA. He first has to be elected as an MP and then leader of a party which wins a majority in a general election. Whilst there are many concerning things in UK politics I do believe we are a long way off such collective madness that appears to have overtaken America.
Having said that having listen to several interviews on Newsnight over the last week with some very sensible, knowledgeable people, Europe does need to get its act together fast and Starmer needs to come out with a clear statement of the threat we are facing and why we need to up defence spending now.
The level if disinformation and outright lies pouring out of Trumps people is truly alarming.

MissRoseDurward · 21/02/2025 14:51

He would have to:

find a constituency
stand for parliament
get elected
somehow gather enough support that he can command an absolute majority in the House of Commons.

In order to command a majority In the Commons he would have to either win over sufficient existing MPs, or get enough supporters to stand for election, and be elected, to get the necessary majority.

Likely? Since there are probably more women than men of voting age?

EmmaMaria · 21/02/2025 15:00

Whilst there are many concerning things in UK politics I do believe we are a long way off such collective madness that appears to have overtaken America

Have you met Reform UK?

Likely? Since there are probably more women than men of voting age?

That is assuming that women wouldn't vote for a misogynist. The evidence actually suggests otherwise. Lots of women voted for Trump and there are probably more women who know what he's like than there are about Tate. MumsNet is a rarified atmosphere - half the UK population wouldn't know who Tate is, what he stands for, or even what is wrong with that.

I doubt it would happen to be honest, but not for any abiding confidence in the British electorate. More likley it wouldn't happen because there are a fair number of lunatics ahead of him in the running.

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:02

Oh come on this is just way too ridiculous now. Can people worry about real problems as we have plenty in the UK. Bloody hell stop giving oxygen to that odious Andrew Tate.

SalfordQuays · 21/02/2025 15:12

dottiehens · 21/02/2025 15:02

Oh come on this is just way too ridiculous now. Can people worry about real problems as we have plenty in the UK. Bloody hell stop giving oxygen to that odious Andrew Tate.

Exactly.
Tate would never become PM. He probably wouldn’t even be allowed to run for parliament given his ongoing criminal charges.

Ted27 · 21/02/2025 15:13

@EmmaMaria

I have indeed met reform.
I think our electoral system is protecting us at the moment. And I did say a long way off, not that it could never happen. History shows us anything can happen.
It should also be factored in that many Americans are armed to the teeth with military grade weapons which presents a whole other set of nightmare scenarios that are not present here.
I really can't see Farage storming no 10 in the way the US capitol was attacked.

Moonlightstars · 21/02/2025 15:15

Ted27 · 21/02/2025 15:13

@EmmaMaria

I have indeed met reform.
I think our electoral system is protecting us at the moment. And I did say a long way off, not that it could never happen. History shows us anything can happen.
It should also be factored in that many Americans are armed to the teeth with military grade weapons which presents a whole other set of nightmare scenarios that are not present here.
I really can't see Farage storming no 10 in the way the US capitol was attacked.

But I can see Tommy Robinson's lot do it on the back of the wave of hatred that fuels Farage and Reform.

Princessfluffy · 21/02/2025 15:18

Presumably Tate can't be PM unless UK women vote for him

MumonabikeE5 · 21/02/2025 15:20

Well I quite fancy being PM but that’s not going to happen.

surely AT isn’t actually a viable contender either?

Wildflowers99 · 21/02/2025 15:21

MumonabikeE5 · 21/02/2025 15:20

Well I quite fancy being PM but that’s not going to happen.

surely AT isn’t actually a viable contender either?

Not at the moment but if the last 10 years have taught me anything, then we can’t idly assume he never will be

EmmaMaria · 21/02/2025 15:28

Ted27 · 21/02/2025 15:13

@EmmaMaria

I have indeed met reform.
I think our electoral system is protecting us at the moment. And I did say a long way off, not that it could never happen. History shows us anything can happen.
It should also be factored in that many Americans are armed to the teeth with military grade weapons which presents a whole other set of nightmare scenarios that are not present here.
I really can't see Farage storming no 10 in the way the US capitol was attacked.

I did see Farage's lot and their friends storming hotels though. I said this about Trump before the first election, and I repeat it now in relation to the UK - do not underestimate what people really think when they don't have to account for their nasty opinions and bigotry. Elections are anonymous, and like this site, many people see that as a fantastic opportunity to be themselves - the person stripped of all the social niceties that lay down a veneer of respectability. I live in a Reform target area - they are out on the streets, they are recruiting and they are making inroads. Frage and his mates have something going for them that other mainstream parties don't - they can take disillusioned voters from both mainstream parties, but they can also speak to the untapped electorate who don't normally go out and vote. You can easily lose a democracy through the ballot box....

https://bosphorusreview.com/review-how-to-lose-a-country-ece-temelkuran

BellaCiao23 · 21/02/2025 15:28

Moonlightstars · 21/02/2025 15:15

But I can see Tommy Robinson's lot do it on the back of the wave of hatred that fuels Farage and Reform.

I hope the rioters from last August sitting in jail cells will think again about that.

Echobelly · 21/02/2025 15:33

I can't imagine AT being viable, he won't be able to come up with any coherent policies, or even. A coherent sentence. Mind you, not that stopped Trump.

Crikeyalmighty · 21/02/2025 15:34

@Echobelly oooh harsh - but fair!!!

Devon24 · 21/02/2025 15:35

The most likely scenario is one where he is serving HM but in a prison not No.10. There is no chance he will ever become an MP if he becomes a free man.

NPET · 21/02/2025 16:30

Being a young woman today is ENTIRELY about being safe in order to live.
The world irl is becoming ever-more dangerous because the men in control are doing nothing to protect us and everything to support men who want to hurt us.
Social media is structured so that men and boys can hurt us without consequences or even pretend to BE us.
And our day-to-day existences as women are being eaten into by men who think they have as much right as us to "be us" and so enter our spaces as if such spaces shouldn't exist.
When I was 9, I and my best friend declared the girls toilets and changing rooms to be a "dickless" area.
I know - stupid - but fun (well we were 9).
But even that wouldn't be allowed today.

Ted27 · 21/02/2025 16:32

@EmmaMaria

Storming an undefended hotel is not the same as storming a heavily defended No 10 or Parliament though.
And a fundamental difference is weaponry available to the average UK system
I see plenty to worry about and I do think Farage is a dangerous individual who has and probably will continue to cause serious issues for this country.

MushMonster · 21/02/2025 16:49

Princessfluffy · 21/02/2025 15:18

Presumably Tate can't be PM unless UK women vote for him

Do you think they will remove our right to vote next? Or give our vote only half the value? Or maybe none of us will vote. Trump will just appoint the ruler of each "country", I mean US State.

Because these guys are some other sort of wrong...

Maybe, once they are gone, we will all ( both men and women) learn to appreciate what we had before them (before incels, Tate, the ultra tras-gender can compete in swimming lot) and keep going for it as a whole society, never allowing this type to associate with each other ever again!
It is beyond baffling.