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Charity for endometriosis appoints a trans woman as CEO.

38 replies

Jewelspun · 13/11/2023 21:38

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12742595/Outrage-charity-womens-condition-appoints-trans-woman-CEO.html

Charity for endometriosis appoints a trans woman as CEO.

What a time to be alive.

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frecklejuice · 13/11/2023 22:11

Just read this and am in complete disbelief, what were they thinking?

It's a joke.

user1494050295 · 13/11/2023 22:17

And the donors for said charity will run for the hills

JustCollateralDamage · 13/11/2023 23:48

Richards may be an incredible manager and expert on endometriosis. Many humans without endometriosis surely are. But just by accepting such a position, she has revealed herself to lack the self-awareness or empathy required for such a job.

DahliaMacNamara · 14/11/2023 00:01

Without wishing to sound too disingenuous here, is it necessary to have experienced a particular condition to be appointed by a health charity? I am in possession of a uterus, but it gives me no insight into what it's like to experience endemetriosis. Would I nonetheless be more qualified than the appointee?

JustCollateralDamage · 14/11/2023 03:56

@DahliaMacNamara I don't think the CEO needs to have endometriosis themselves, but they could not have chosen someone who could be in a worse position to empathise with the condition itself.

This is a charity for a condition which was long ignored because the people doing the research didn't have female reproductive systems.

Endometriosis causes intensely painful periods - many, if not most women will have experienced at least one bout of very painful menstrual cramping if not other fertility related ailments in their lives. Many women suffer from infertility or trouble getting pregnant, which comes with sadness, intense grief and social stigma. It can be an identity-shattering experience, demoralising and lonely. So, so many women have experienced these things and even if they don't have an endo diagnosis they would be in a much better position to sympathise with those that do.

The history of endometriosis is that it has been woefully understudied, the pain women report to doctors has been reduced, ignored and waved away for decades. This has only very recently began to change once WOMEN who would take the issue seriously began to fill high level roles in medical fields and feminists advocated tirelessly for acknowledgement and better healthcare. Given this historical context it just seems like such bad optics to choose a CEO who has never experienced menstrual pain, pregnancy complications, infertility and all its social pressures.

Given how commonplace these experiences are for women (even without endo), it would not be difficult to find a more empathetic fit who was just as qualified as a C-level exec.

SD1978 · 14/11/2023 04:00

Have any previous CEO's had endometriosis. Have they all been female. Whilst I agree it's ridiculous if this has always been a female run charity, if not, then I don't necessarily have an issue with the charity itself.

TakeMe2Insanity · 14/11/2023 04:05

I think it’s the line, “ I was 40 before anyone asked me about endometriosis “ which says everything.

Aliceinnorthernland · 14/11/2023 04:12

I don't think the CEO has to have has endometriosis themselves. But I do think it's wrong to employ a biological male who is a parody of women, to represent a charity for a female condition that has largely ignored due to the fact that the medical establishment is mostly male. It's like Suella Braverman being the CEO for care4calais.

Torymory · 14/11/2023 11:53

The issue is that 'Steph' is a trans activist who is hostile to GC women (check her tweets). I also note she is a Labour activist on the left of the party. I cannot see her offering support to 'Terf' and Tory women. Perhaps like the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre run by a TW they will have to submit to 're-education' before getting help. And she hates Mumsnet. So not the ideal person to get the message over to women out there and for speaking to conferences about this issue.

I was a Councillor for 16 years and served on the Public Health Committee. One if the issues we discussed was getting health messages over to certain groups. Men & women with poor literacy and language skills. Messages had to be simple. So asking 'cervix carriers' rather than women to come forward for testing is stupid. Similarly 'people with painful periods' rather than women. I did not see any reference to women on this charity's website.

truetruebarneymcgrew · 14/11/2023 16:30

I guess they were the only applicant for the job, or maybe it ticks the diversity box, because I don't see why else they'd employ someone so openly hostile to gender critical women.

newtoallthisshizzle · 14/11/2023 20:33

I saw the word “menstruators” on their website and slammed my laptop shut in disgust. How dare they? Agree that you don’t necessarily have to have had direct experience to be a good CEO but appointing this guy is not only a kick in the teeth but a piss take too. I am starting to wonder if all this is less virtue signalling and more trying to wind us up deliberately.

JustCollateralDamage · 14/11/2023 21:11

The website says "1 in 10 people are diagnosed with endometriosis".

Is this even accurate? I thought it was 1 in 10 women that had endo? Subbing in the word "people" literally changes the statistic...

WeighDownOnMe · 14/11/2023 21:22

Is this person actually qualified for the CEO role?

If not, I'd like to know if there were qualified women in the running.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/11/2023 21:32

the charity is tiny with hardly any income. It’s highly likely Steph isn’t being paid for the role but agreed it with the chair & founder as they seem to be in a mutual fan club . A lot has been unearthed and discussed on the sex & gender board about it

JayAlfredPrufrock · 14/11/2023 22:50

Well colour me stupid.

SleepPrettyDarling · 14/11/2023 22:54

… and on BBC4’s Women’s Hour tomorrow. I despair.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 14/11/2023 22:54

How to completely alienate women and undermine trust in your charity. God it's tiring.

TheChristmasPig · 14/11/2023 23:03

JustCollateralDamage · 13/11/2023 23:48

Richards may be an incredible manager and expert on endometriosis. Many humans without endometriosis surely are. But just by accepting such a position, she has revealed herself to lack the self-awareness or empathy required for such a job.

Unfortunately he is not any of these things. He is a male rights activist with a hatred of women oft voiced on social media. A quick googling could have told the charity this. It's rubbish. I hope they sack him.

BinkyBeaufort · 15/11/2023 12:34

Give a listen to Emma Barnett shredding these two on Woman's Hour this morning. Totally unfuckingbelievable. Love Emma!

Hiphopopotamonster · 15/11/2023 12:39

🙄 and the CEO of Prostate Cancer U.K. is a woman. FFS do better than this. Many people, trans and cis are hostile towards GC women because GC is usually code for bigoted. I’m not sure that has any bearing on her ability to do the job she was appointed to.

WeighDownOnMe · 15/11/2023 12:43

'Do better' is the biggest cop out ever.

Hiphopopotamonster · 15/11/2023 13:06

WeighDownOnMe · 15/11/2023 12:43

'Do better' is the biggest cop out ever.

Ok. To avoid a ‘cop out’. Stop blindly opposing everything a trans person does just because they disagree with GC people dismissing them and their right to exist. Which is what you are doing, however you prefer to phrase it.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/11/2023 13:09

Steph has no lived experience of endo, no experience of running a charity, actively campaigns against women having single sex spaces as well as standing outside Fila conferences shouting abuse at women so @Hiphopopotamonster what exactly qualifies Steph fir this role?

Pinkitydrinkity0 · 15/11/2023 13:15

I have endometriosis and on the face of it I don’t have a problem with a trans woman or a man being the CEO of the charity tbh. Any consultant/surgeon I have ever seen about endo has been a man and they were all extremely knowledgeable about the disease.

But the head of any charity needs to have life long knowledge/experience/passion about the issue OR at least experience at running a charity. It’s silly to just pluck a name for the CEO seemingly out of a hat 😅

WeighDownOnMe · 15/11/2023 13:16

It's really not what we're doing but ok. I sense a debate is a waste of good faith, time, and energy.