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John Lewis ad is sexualising girls

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Lovecleansheets · 10/10/2023 20:34

Got this image on email advertising Halloween dressing up but I think it’s creepy and overtly sexual.

  1. female child seems posed with hand on hip. Gaze seems serious, not amused or laughing.
  2. there’s nothing funny or spooky. Her outfit and makeup seems more appropriate for an adult.
Checked with DH who just winced and agreed.

I will be contacting JL to express my distaste.

Any thoughts?

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TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 22:49

I really see no “sexual appeal” in the girls pose, look or costume. Is quite like this one on a boy.

John Lewis ad is sexualising girls
20cheeseomelette · 11/10/2023 22:49

TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 22:42

We’re so desensitised that the outfit seems.. typical… but why does an outfit for a child need the impression of a laced bodice?

Because that is what girl children wore during the witch hunts? It’s a head nod to a bit of historical accuracy? Back then children were dressed like miniature adults.

What like these medieval women?

I don’t remember seeing half laced bodices on the front of women’s dresses in historical paintings. At a time when women were supposed to be chaste and pious or else be deemed a harlot. Most people were peasants wearing linen, wool and flax not fancy ribbons.

John Lewis ad is sexualising girls
VoodooQualities · 11/10/2023 22:49

I'd have loved wearing that when I was 10.

Moreso if my mum had let me have a go with her lipstick.

I might even have put my hand on my hip.

You're mad.

TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 22:51

Limesandlemons1 · 11/10/2023 22:45

I agree OP. If this is not subtly sexualised (deliberate or not) then why don’t we see boys doing these poses? Why is it just girls?

We do? I already posted one boy, here is another. He’s even smiling how OP thinks a girl should always be smiling.

John Lewis ad is sexualising girls
TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 22:53

20cheeseomelette · 11/10/2023 22:49

What like these medieval women?

I don’t remember seeing half laced bodices on the front of women’s dresses in historical paintings. At a time when women were supposed to be chaste and pious or else be deemed a harlot. Most people were peasants wearing linen, wool and flax not fancy ribbons.

Wrong century and wrong class. Witches were invariably very poor peasant women so they had no maids to lace their stays, so the lacing was in the front. Lacing in the back was for the upper classes.

20cheeseomelette · 11/10/2023 22:55

But the stays weren’t exposed trailing

JustAMinutePleass · 11/10/2023 22:57

You are bonkers

TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 23:00

20cheeseomelette · 11/10/2023 22:55

But the stays weren’t exposed trailing

I didn’t say they were…

TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 23:24

20cheeseomelette · 11/10/2023 22:55

But the stays weren’t exposed trailing

You haven’t explained

  • why you have posted a painting of women from the 12th century which is further in time from the witch hunts of the 17th century than we are….you’d have been more accurate if you’d posted a painting of a women from the 2000s.
  • why you don’t get that working class/peasant women (who were always the ones accused of being witches) were only very rarely in historic paintings because paintings cost tons of money and were a luxury item.
TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 23:26

WandaWonder · 11/10/2023 20:57

No I am not seeing it and I find the fact people on here are thinking of sexualising this child is gross

Me too. Especially the idea that the girl isn’t grinning ear to ear is somehow making her “knowing” and “intent”…🤮

Deadringer · 11/10/2023 23:32

I would say she is very glamorous and too 'made up' for her age, but I don't think she is sexualized.

Screamingabdabz · 11/10/2023 23:33

My youngest dd would look like that and pose for photos like that from around the age of 4/5! She was always precocious and like to perform and pose. We kept all input strictly PG so I can assure you it was not sexualised.

Sux2buthen · 12/10/2023 07:40

The perspective of a lot of the posters on this thread is disturbing.
If an image of a child in a Halloween costume makes you think they're posing sexually then you are the problem

Limesandlemons1 · 12/10/2023 08:10

TrailingLoellia · 11/10/2023 22:51

We do? I already posted one boy, here is another. He’s even smiling how OP thinks a girl should always be smiling.

Eh? You’ve just proven my point, here is a boy smiling broadly and normally, straight on to the camera, hand happens to be around hip but it’s not in the same way as the girl photo as he’s straight on. I think both boys and girls outfits should be advertised like this boy’s one

deydododatdodontdeydo · 12/10/2023 08:25

The people saying she has a "knowing look" are very worrying. Sounds like the sort of comment a predatory man would say: she knew what she was doing, etc.
Also bonkers to suggest she has learned to pose in that way. She probably put her hand on her hip because the photographer asked her to.
There's probably 50 other unused photos of her posing in different ways.
There's sexualising children and there isn't, and this isn't.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/10/2023 08:38

I don't like it. It has the ring of the wrong tone about it. I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say sexualised but it's "off".

It isn't surprising JL are going down the pan if this represents their marketing strategy. Those who won't like it will largely be drawn from the middle classes who are aspirant and ambitious for their children - in London those who get on their knees to save the fees, etc. Ellie-May and Eva-Rose will be seen in similar outfits, Olympia and Cicely, probably not.

JL needs to look at its customer base and ban dogs that aren't care dogs from Peter Jones - it's unpleasant when they pee on the floor

Bex5490 · 12/10/2023 10:12

Lol - I think she’s supposed to be a witch with attitude? and I’d rather my daughter be dressed as a strong sassy witch than a sickly sweet smiley submissive angel.

There is nothing sexualised about this outfit or picture.

Find a better cause to put this energy into OP 😂

PeggyPoggleshaw · 12/10/2023 11:03

Limesandlemons1 · 12/10/2023 08:10

Eh? You’ve just proven my point, here is a boy smiling broadly and normally, straight on to the camera, hand happens to be around hip but it’s not in the same way as the girl photo as he’s straight on. I think both boys and girls outfits should be advertised like this boy’s one

Fucking hell. You need therapy.

Thelnebriati · 12/10/2023 11:05

Try using facts to make your point instead of shaming other women.

KindleAndCake · 12/10/2023 11:09

It's a pose with sass, with attitude, not a young child in a costume pose, in my opinion.

fairymary87 · 12/10/2023 11:23

Wow talk about making something out of nothing!

Limesandlemons1 · 12/10/2023 22:12

PeggyPoggleshaw · 12/10/2023 11:03

Fucking hell. You need therapy.

😂 Bless

paperflowers55 · 13/10/2023 18:48

I agree, OP. I'll also add I am seeing more and more young girls in SpaceNK trying to conform to beauty standards at the tender ages of 10. they are bombarded with all sorts of imagery and social media crap instead of being allowed to be children.

Bloom15 · 13/10/2023 19:15

Motnight · 11/10/2023 22:03

This is madness.

It's a photo of a girl in fancy dress looking confident and fearless.

I agree!

She looks sassy and confident - and witchy! That is all I see

Limesandlemons1 · 13/10/2023 21:46

Bloom15 · 13/10/2023 19:15

I agree!

She looks sassy and confident - and witchy! That is all I see

Do you also describe young boys as “sassy”?