Why trans are encouraged to leave families in a nutshell!

[Moomoola]

like many people our trans daughter (girl) has been encouraged to just leave home, live with medicalised ftom partner and glitter mum and go no contact.

I’m finding it difficult to explain how nasty the trans ideology can be, without sounding nuts.

Friends ( especially teacher friends) ask me incredulously, well why would the trans community want people to leave their families? They just want to live their lives without being attacked’
The implication being I can’t have used the correct pronouns, I’m old fashioned , I’m over reacting, she’s nearly 18..oh she is now 18.

I know there’s a lot of come and join our gang, and you’ll be accepted..but why?

i have a vague idea - I know commercialism is part of it (primark, etc), I know they ( certainly the partner)likes to think everyone hates them because they are trans - I’m guessing that makes you feel important and if young trans teens are being angry, they are not questioning.

as you can see from this post, I’m not overly coherent!
can any wise mumsnetters sum it up for me, so I don’t get tongue tied?

many many thanks.

It sounds similar to cult tactics... to isolate the person from their past.

I get what you mean. Part of the 'trans identity' is that you must be a victim. All that 'most marginalised, most oppressed' claim you see in so many tweets / social media posts. Usually said by 'allies' rather than transpeople themselves. Which means that when they claim that identity, they have to be a Victim or they are not really trans.

And you can't be a victim unless you are being victimised. By someone, anyone, doesn't matter who, but you need a baddie to oppress you, whether they actually do or not. And that's where you come in. You are given the identity of Victimiser in order for them to claim the identity of Victim. There's no need for it to be true. It just has to be claimed.

@Moomoola I had to have a Google about glitter families & mom's. I found this article. It's so sad & shocking that this can actually happen. We have chatted on other threads & I'm so sorry that you are going through this.
Thank you so much for raising awareness on this, you posted a very informative reply to a thread I posted about how to protect my dc from the TRA brainwashing & I've taken it all on board. This article is very interesting.

https://www.gendermapper.org/post/the-secret-tactics-of-glitter-moms-a-tale-of-betrayal-and-grooming

Thank you very much for this link moon I couldn't work out what we'd done bbut this helps explain clearly what's going on. I could not believe this could happen. Soo innocent.
Please mums, share ,!

@Moomoola 🤗 it's chilling & frightening what is going on. Any & every child is prey. You are doing so well her on mn advocating to parents & raising awareness. Please God your daughter will see the light & this is just a phase X

Thank you moon! You are doing pretty well yourself! I’m trying to get these videos etc into Threads with more traffic, but understand that unless you are directly impacted, it’s pretty impossible to persueded people what’s going on without sounding nuts.

If they have supportive parents, no one would encourage the children to leave? Doesn't that tell you something? Are you supportive?
My son's best friend is trans. He has very supportive parents. I don't think anyone encourages him to leave home, since the home is safest place he can be.

I don't think you sound nuts fwiw.

I think the grooming/ culty isolation tactics are very evident, but I know a lot of people refuse to see it yet.

Its absolutely shocking some of the tactics that are used.

Hope your daughter comes back to you.

Thanks books and morales I think you’re right, people aren’t seeing it yet - it’s so mad no one would believe it.

as you say, grape yes, we were supportive.
We have no problem. The problem was with my DDs partner, who gently persueded , nagged and emotionally persuaded DD that we are not supportive. The partner also has a mum that, as above, has transitioned her daughter, and encouraged our daughter to move in. So, vested interest as explained in the link.
That’s why the above link is SO important.

please share, because it might just be that your best friends son doesn’t, at the moment, have access to a partner with a mum who is encouraging him.

I've looked at the link. but sorry, it's not something I would take seriously.

The problem was with my DDs partner, who gently persueded , nagged and emotionally persuaded DD that we are not supportive.

This happens, not just in trans relationships, but also in non trans relationships. So I agree that the partner maybe the problem, but making it as something that only happens with trans people is a bit off for me.

@Moomoola I absolutely believe you 110.

I think its because it happens in non-trans relationships that I believe it is definitely occurring.

You see these mums, and they wanted to be known as the 'fun' mums. Now for whatever reasons they want to be seen as the 'glitter' mums.

In any other circumstances a man asking for kids to DM him would raise eyebrows.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ifamnews.com/en/how-transgender-glitter-moms-are-trolling-the-internet-and-ruining-childrens-lives/amp

@Moomoola 🤗

Absolute crap. Don’t you try and blame loving parents for trying to protect their children from a cultish social contagion.

They are encouraged to leave because a big part of this ideology is about violating social norms and how better than by severing family bonds. Make children confused about their identity, separate them from those who will love and protect them and you can use them for pretty much anything - armies of little activists.

@BethDuttonsTwin well said. It's another form of grooming.

thanks moon for the support, and for another very good link.
beth yes, beautifully said.
and mmorales thank you. Of course it happens in all sorts of relationships, but it seems to be a very definite phenomena to do with the cult if trans.
The trouble with ‘trans’ is it is a generic term for some very different groups. i think their are ..some genuine trans people who want to just get on, some young kids who see it as cool/ punk and are in it for the fashion, not the medicalisation, some very disturbed kids who believe the drugs will solve their problems, and some older, mysoginist m to f people who like to push what they can get away with.
all I know, is I agree with bethduttonstwin. I also agree with all the therapists, womens aid workers, domestic violence etc etc etc, who all say the first rule of controlling someone is to isolate them.p from their support. Whether it’s the school bully who spreads gossip about one person, to the husband that doesn’t let his wife see her mum, to the glitter mum that persueded children they don’t need their mum.
it’s horrendous, it’s here, and not many people know. Look at PITT substack, it’s full the stories of parents like me.

The term “glitter mums” makes me think of Gary Glitter, notorious convicted serial paedophile. Is that who they are named after?!
Or is it just a reference to the glitter and rainbows used to disguise the reality of health damaging puberty blockers, mutilating surgery and a lifetime of side effects and illness from wrong sex hormone administration?

Yes babdock like ‘top surgery’ so much nicer than a ‘double masectomy’
a few years ago people were interested enough to be a bit shocked at Angelina jolie doing this to guard against almost certain breast cancer.
now it’s a shown in books for primary school kids and adverts as a fashion statement.
utterly dystopian.

That is 100% what it is.

Thank you, I’m researching cults and yes, totally. Just wierd as it’s not a cult in a specific location, but global. Or western anyway, which makes it very hard to pin down.

It’s one method used by cults; separate the person from friends and family. That way there is no dissenting opinion to compete with their ideology, and the self-induced separation is weaponised as a way to further justify the cause for separation and sense of grievance.

Actually it has similarities with how terrorist cells recruit in that physical proximity isn’t a primary concern.

Thanks. But why? Why do they do this? I believe there is some incredibly rich, powerful people behind this - big pharma for a start. I think I read that every medicalised trans person creates $1.3 million profit.
and of course, Stonewall seems to have created trained people who are now working at other places and spreading the word.
But why? And why are we all falling for it?
Especially when we are told to ‘be kind’ but obviously we are not being kind enough.
Who thinks this is ok? Ffs.
I am very confused. And quite emotional. And, yesgrapehyacinth we thought we were being supportive. But obviously not supportive enough - though it’s not deemed a requirement to let us know how and why.

From my understanding there is a powerful business financing company (international) which makes a lot of TRA/Stonewall guidelines contingent on funding. I don’t understand why but perhaps there is some business or pharmaceutical interest.

I’m sure the drug companies have a vested interest in it too.

It’s curious that this all appeared at a similar time and used similar campaigning tactics. Does make one wonder if there is something else going on.