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Thiic

38 replies

Windywuss · 03/06/2023 19:27

Do you know this word? I hate it. My students use it and it smacks if being very boysy and objectifying. They're not saying it about females, but joking about something else. Is it seen as ok or would you find it inappropriate, even if it's not about women?

I'm concerned that I teach a male dominated subject and I loathe this male 'banter' stuff but fear if I say something I'll get such a backlash. I already feel my respect slipping away as I get older.

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dementedpixie · 03/06/2023 19:30

I have no idea what it means and have never heard it being used

DojaPhat · 03/06/2023 20:26

How long have you been teaching? I ask because if you've been around young people in any capacity be that as a parent, aunt, teacher, youth worker etc then you'd be no stranger to the new fangled slang or terminology du jour. Does this word in particular bother you or is it an example of the broader point about male 'banter'? If you're teaching mainly boys in a heavily male-dominated subject matter then respect is not a negotiable, I've found particularly with teen students if they detect the tiniest degree of uncertainty or unassuredness in their teachers (both male and female staff), they'll grab it and run a mile with it. In your position I'd go on the path of appropriate language in the classroom - not specifically this word because then where do you draw the line? Is 'thicc' not okay but 'fit' is?

Windywuss · 03/06/2023 21:19

Ah...it's not teaching children. It's adults. The ones in question are mature students too. Yes .well aware language changes. But I find it a bit depressing. If it was aimed at a female, I would certainly say something. But it's subtler and not always verbal. We have other platforms within our area online.

The word itself has origins of commenting on women with curvey figures and big bottoms and thighs. It's obviously used in a jokey sense now more widely but I really dislike it.

I feel like younger generation don't seem to have a problem with thicc, Karens and all sorts of derogatory words. I am just interested to know whether younger women have issues with these sorts of words or do they just not see it the same? I have told students to not use Karen and why. But then they probably just think I am one for saying it.

I've been doing it a long time. Just finding this stuff more difficult lately. Maybe I have less tolerance.

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Leo227 · 03/06/2023 21:28

aware of it and dont see it as a problem, lightheartedly use it to my wife who appreciates that it describes (my) ideal body type of a very attractive woman. I don't generally rank a out strangers bodies though so can't imagine it would use it to external people who could for some reason be offended.

Leo227 · 03/06/2023 21:30

*don't generally comment on strangers bodies, so I wouldn't use it to someone who may find it offensive for some reason.

ThinAsLeanMince · 03/06/2023 21:35

I think I'd like an example of what you're saying. I don't come across the word often but I'm familiar with it on the internet. I've never known it not to be used on a female or between gay men and in a positive way. So I don't understand the other subtler, non-verbal context you're referring to.

ThinAsLeanMince · 03/06/2023 21:36

Also know it as 'Thicc'

Teabab · 03/06/2023 21:41

They're not saying it about females, but joking about something else.

Well how are they saying it, in relation to what? Generally it's used as a compliment, yes objectifying but that's a much wider issue than what the new 'in' term is for a desirable figure.

Phoebo · 03/06/2023 21:43

I disagree. From how I've heard it, it's from a positive point of view and said as a compliment. Think Lizzo.

Windywuss · 03/06/2023 21:53

I didn't want to be too specific about the example but it was a quip on a character design within my area of visual arts made by one of the men.

I understand it's supposed to be complimentary to a woman like Lizzo, but I just find it all so objectifying. Between couples that's their business. But in a work situation when someone is drawing attention to sexual objectification, it feels uncomfortable. Perhaps it's my experience of the world has coloured me. But it's doesn't feel progressive to me.

It's likely just me then. I just really dislike it

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ThinAsLeanMince · 03/06/2023 21:55

I actually think more Megan Thee Stallion than Lizzo. Not sure how it's used often nowadays but only known it to be used for curvy and voluptuous women who are seen as "not fat" but not "skinny" either; have arse, hips and maybe thighs.

But maybe it's also now used for women like Lizzo, Tess Holiday, Ashley Graham.

lookingforMolly · 03/06/2023 21:56

Thicc is when a woman has a curvy figure with a larger bum like Kim Kardashian's.

Palmasailor · 03/06/2023 22:00

It just means fat

Windywuss · 03/06/2023 22:00

I know what it means.

I'm saying as a feminist I don't think it's a good word. I'd like there to be less objectification.

But as I say, it seems that the rest of you here find it fine. I am out of step with the world increasingly it seems.

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ThinAsLeanMince · 03/06/2023 22:04

What about sexy? Always hated that word but it's a classic. Hot, too. So many objective words to choose from.

Thick is just a way to describe someone in the medium range with a nice shape. I find the others more offensive.

GCWorkNightmare · 03/06/2023 22:04

Beyoncé has a song on her current album called Thique.

ThinAsLeanMince · 03/06/2023 22:05

Yes, Beyonce is another person I've seen being called Thicc

JandalsAlways · 03/06/2023 22:07

Palmasailor · 03/06/2023 22:00

It just means fat

No it doesn't. Fat has a negative connotation. Thicc is seen as positive and attractive

Windywuss · 03/06/2023 22:09

@ThinAsLeanMince see hot or sexy are just general terms aren't they? To say you find someone attractive. Where as this Thicc thing is saying someone has a big arse/thighs, that are sexually appealing. It's specific.

As I say, obviously it is just me. 😔

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JandalsAlways · 03/06/2023 22:10

I don't really understand. Isn't everything objectifying in some way? What's an alternative that's positive? Personally I like to be complimented on my looks, and it's good there's a positive word for larger women too. Sexy can work too, although that seems more sexual to me for some reason.

PortiaWithNoBreaks · 03/06/2023 22:18

The connotations for me are positive for this word but I only really know it within a gym environment. It’s used a lot as a compliment for a particular body shape, specifically legs, that’s been achieved through a lot of hard work and effort by shifting heavy weights.

Palmasailor · 03/06/2023 22:23

JandalsAlways · 03/06/2023 22:07

No it doesn't. Fat has a negative connotation. Thicc is seen as positive and attractive

No it means fat. They’re just trying to spin it as positive and attractive. And fat is negative, it’s not a good idea on any level and it’s time people woke up to that.

ThinAsLeanMince · 03/06/2023 22:25

It doesnt mean fat unless you think Beyonce and Megan the stallion are fat.

If used for tess holiday or lizzo, yes it means fat.

ThinAsLeanMince · 03/06/2023 22:27

OP, 'Sexy' is the most specific when it comes to 'sexually appealing' and objectifiying. Thicc is neutral in comparison.

Teabab · 03/06/2023 22:27

I think the issue is more that they feel happy to freely discuss stuff like this in class rather than the particular words used.

No it means fat. They’re just trying to spin it as positive and attractive. And fat is negative, it’s not a good idea on any level and it’s time people woke up to that.

No it doesn't, people use it for women who are toned and of a healthy weight but with larger assets- a figure unrealistic for most.