Just been called a TERF on SM ...

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feeling quite proud 😊

It generally is, but @WaityWTF then tried to justify it with their dictionary definition and I'm just wondering if they recognise their own bigotry towards those with GC views.

Just seems a little one sided, hypocritical even.

Yes yes, on you go with the usual oh so hilarious jibes against anyone with the temerity to not be GC.

Special slow handclap sneering at the dictionary definition of bigot.

Do dictionary definitions only count if they suit your world-view?

Excellent! Think I'll have it printed on a t-shirt.

Congratulations, OP

Do dictionary definitions only count if you get to choose who they apply to?

Congratulations. I've been trying my best but still haven't been called a terf

My contribution to Terf bingo = genocide.

'bigot:

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.'

That is such an accurate description of TRAs. Thanks, WaityWTF.

It's maybe worth reading about the 'paradox of tolerance'.

To what extent should people be tolerant of intolerance?

Excellent! Congratulations!

I think we should tolerate healthy and respectful debate on both sides without necessarily having to agree a common ground.

I will look into this paradox though, thanks for the suggestion

Trans-activism is profoundly misogynistic and homophobic.

If we are talking about bigotry.

Thing is, there are dictionary definitions for believing that the self expression of males is more valuable and important and should be enforced in law over the equality of females. Even if this results in not only the exclusion and subordination of females, but actual rape ffs.

It's called male supremacism. The belief that females are intrinsically less human and valuable than males, and should not be equally treated or considered. Look it up.

Believing in reality and wanting equality - well you call that any name you can think of, I'll hold your coat. But your changes of shaming me into co operation aren't good I'm afraid.

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction,

Hm.

Women who are obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief in objective reality and sex as a fixed fact because that's how their biology affects them day to day? A belief that was held by the entire world until about five minutes ago, and is only seen as unreasonable because it says no to the absolute freedoms of less than 1% of the male population at the expense of said women? Unreasonable?

Gender activitists who are obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief that reality is created by feelings and not facts, that people can change sex, that sex is a spectrum, that some people are born in the wrong body with gendered souls (that came from somewhere and presumably were put in the wrong body by some greater force that is a bit of a klutz and will go somewhere else after death??) and that female people should not resist or protest this because it impedes males? Unreasonable?

especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Women: be trans, that's great, just respect women needing female only spaces too and permit facilities, resources and language that equally respects and includes our reality, needs, cultures, faiths, disabilities, homosexuality, so that society remains equally accessible and we can live alongside each other in peace.

Gender activitists: Terf, cis scum, death threats, bigot, corrective rape, only total capitulation and abandonment of female needs etc will ever do...

Let's compare and contrast, shall we? 😀

Am I antagonistic towards someone of any sex, gender, race, creed, or any other characteristic who thinks its the job of women to be raped quietly in prisons and excluded from society in order to indulge the self actualisation of a male who does not care about the impact of their actions on females and has no feelings of reciprocation?

Why yes. Yes I am. The behaviour sucks, regardless of who is performing it. I will be making no exceptions for seeing that behaviour as selfish, shameful and wholly unacceptable.

@WaityWTF - please come back and argue your case.

I would love to be convinced.

I hate feeling so angry about the degradation and erosion of women’s rights all the time.

I would love to actually be persuaded I am wrong. It would make life so much easier.

Whoop!

Bigot? 🤣
The vast majority of the world KNOW its impossible to change sex.
Is this man a bigot too?

Interesting:

TRA’s make rape and death threats, and think it’s fine to ‘decapitate terfs’

Terfs say ‘treat everyone (including trans people) with decency and respect, and if that means trans people need third spaces/sports categories, then that’s fine, just leave the single-sex stuff alone’ - see JKR’s essay as an excellent example

Wondering which group would be considered bigots, using, of course, the dictionary definition?????

I am not debating men about women's rights and safeguarding for women and children.

Congratulations!

I was once told by a she/her handmaiden on SM I was a ‘gross TERF and extremely problematic’ and it remains one of my proudest moments.

Well, I've had a think about being a bigot.

I am obstinately attached to the belief that sex is immutable and humans are a dimorphic species, it's true.

Were other evidence ever to come to light that there are more than two sexes and that it's possible to change sex, I would reconsider that belief.

So far, nix, so I don't think I'm 'unreasonably' attached to the view. (I also am quite hardline on the existence of gravity, tbh.)

As for being prejudiced - yes, I do treat males more circumspectly than females, because on the basis of both empirical evidence and personal experience, it's males that are more likely - by a great margin - to present a risk to women.

For that reason, it seems sensible to me to retain protections as described in the law to help guard women's safety, privacy and dignity.

If that all makes me a bigot, then hey ho.

Very good question. How far should women have to tolerate being called a derogatory slur for believing in the immutability of sex?

Should we just put up with politicians standing in front of signs that say 'decapitate terfs'?

And meekly accept being called 'bigots' because we refuse to accept that males can become female?

And why is is that the death and rape threat and the calls for ‘decapitation’ always, always come from transwomen? Male-bodied people?

Where are the transmen making these calls?

I mean, I know the answer: see my point above about the profound misogyny of trans-activism.

With every rape and death threat, transwomen just prove they are men.

But somehow, me having a problem with misogyny makes me the bigot.

And if sex isn’t real, there can be no same-sex attraction. How is that not the very definition of homophobia?

…and somehow, me having a problem with homophobia makes me the bigot.