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If you’re a ‘Ms’ and have a daughter…

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GodspeedJune · 24/11/2022 20:54

Did you register her as a Ms or Miss?

I’m a Ms and have a new baby DD. On principle I’d like to register her as a Ms, to avoid the patriarchal trappings of Miss/ Mrs. But is that weird for a child? I noticed that if she had been born a boy, there would only be one option for ‘Mr’.

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tunthebloodyalarmoff · 25/11/2022 15:19

You don't you just say her name

tunthebloodyalarmoff · 25/11/2022 15:21

GodspeedJune · 24/11/2022 22:01

Sorry, should have mentioned it’s the GP registration form I’m talking about, not the birth registration.

Her hospital paperwork says ‘Miss’ which was either automatic, or selected by a midwife as I wasn’t asked to choose at the time.

Does it even matter. No it doesn't the doctor will call her name have you really got time for this

NatalieIsFreezing · 25/11/2022 15:56

tunthebloodyalarmoff · 25/11/2022 15:21

Does it even matter. No it doesn't the doctor will call her name have you really got time for this

It mattered enough to you for you to post on the thread, but no-one else is allowed to care enough to post about it?

stuntbubbles · 25/11/2022 15:58

Ms at the GP and anywhere else where there was/is a title option. If she gets letters to Miss I take the opportunity to change it; if letters to just her name they obviously don’t use titles anyway so that’s fine. DP’s family continue to send her letters addressed to Miss Name DP’ssurname even though she’s Ms Name Herownsurname, and it makes me hiss.

GodspeedJune · 25/11/2022 16:29

tunthebloodyalarmoff · 25/11/2022 15:21

Does it even matter. No it doesn't the doctor will call her name have you really got time for this

Yes it does matter and yes I have got time for this. How rude.

Thank you to those who were able to reply civilly. I’ve registered her as Ms at the GP today and will do the same with her bank account when it is set up. I think it was the best choice, coming from a typical rude feminist.

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Snugglemonkey · 25/11/2022 16:40

Dollydea · 24/11/2022 22:39

I HATE all these titles for women! Mrs, ms, or miss... completely ridiculous!

When I got married I actually thought becoming a Mrs instead of a Miss was a step up in the world, I'm only 32 so not like it was last century or anything.

Men keep Mr as a title, married, divorced or widowed.. so why shouldn't women do the same?

If you hate the titles and think women should have one title like men, why not be a Ms? Why define yourself in terms of your marital status? I am not picking, just genuinely curious as these things don't fit in my head, especially the strep up in the world but, so wondered how it all fits for you.

ArabellaScott · 25/11/2022 20:48

AmyFl · 24/11/2022 22:07

I find it ridiculous that they still have those options -should just be Mr or Ms.

Or no title at all. There's no need, really.

hangonsnoopy · 25/11/2022 22:06

I swap between them all the time. They rarely get used anyway.

surreygirl1987 · 27/11/2022 21:33

My 18 year old is a 'Lord' on his bank account. I don't know why. He says he thought it'd be funny when he was filling the form in...

Haha, I find that funny actually. It shows up how silly titles are.

I was a Ms when I got married. But I kept getting called Miss and Mrs (I'm a school teacher so it's part of my day to day life). In the end I did a PhD part time, partially to get the title Dr to avoid the stupid Miss/Ms/Mrs thing. I hate that women are categorised on whether they are single or married.

surreygirl1987 · 27/11/2022 21:34

Also, what surname do your children have? I hyphenated my own surname when I got married but my two children have my husband's surname...

Mydogatemypurse · 27/11/2022 21:35

Im ms. I thought females under 18 were miss

stuntbubbles · 27/11/2022 21:41

Mydogatemypurse · 27/11/2022 21:35

Im ms. I thought females under 18 were miss

Nope, I’ve been Ms since the day I was born.

FatimaHatima · 28/11/2022 00:17

Mydogatemypurse · 27/11/2022 21:35

Im ms. I thought females under 18 were miss

Why would they be?

ErrolTheDragon · 28/11/2022 17:44

Titles for minors are a bit daft.

I noticed that when we were booking holidays, they put Miss for DD on tickets until she turned 16 at which point she became a Ms - that seemed pretty reasonable.

The historical reasons for the various titles used for women are pretty irrelevant tbh. If any women find they're treated differently now because of their title (chosen or assumed) - and it seems this regrettably still happens - then it's a legitimate feminist issue which shouldn't be casually dismissed by those who don't care.

Luredbyapomegranate · 28/11/2022 17:47

I’d think children are automatically Master or Miss, adults Mr or Ms, unless they chose something else

PinkSyCo · 28/11/2022 17:48

Master for a boy and Miss for a girl isn’t it? I personally hate Ms. It’s like you’re worth neither a vowel nor an extra syllable if you’re single. 😂

Helpmephrasethis · 28/11/2022 17:49

Why do we need titles at all?

ErrolTheDragon · 28/11/2022 17:51

I personally hate Ms. It’s like you’re worth neither a vowel nor an extra syllable if you’re single

It's a bit awkward that it's not an abbreviation, there's no 'proper word' to go with it. But on forms it's equivalent to Mr and Dr. Same applies to Mx I suppose.

MarshaBradyo · 28/11/2022 17:52

Helpmephrasethis · 28/11/2022 17:49

Why do we need titles at all?

I agree. I’d like to opt out

Slig · 28/11/2022 17:54

My daughter was Ms on every form I have filled out since she was born. She's now 18. I loathe the terms Miss and Mrs.

I think they are pathetic. I am a Ms and will always be a Ms.

My son was alway Mr. Not that I remember there being a Master option.

ErrolTheDragon · 28/11/2022 17:55

Helpmephrasethis · 28/11/2022 17:49

Why do we need titles at all?

I'm not sure we do nowadays. Just we're still a bit stuck on sometimes wanting a 'formal' mode of address, that using forenames is overly familiar.

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 29/11/2022 13:19

surreygirl1987 · 27/11/2022 21:34

Also, what surname do your children have? I hyphenated my own surname when I got married but my two children have my husband's surname...

Why did you add his name to yours but he didn’t add yours to his? Why did the children you grew and birthed get his name, not yours (or both)?

I kept Ms and my name on marriage. DD has my surname and her dad’s (DH’s) as a second middle name.

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 29/11/2022 13:21

PinkSyCo · 28/11/2022 17:48

Master for a boy and Miss for a girl isn’t it? I personally hate Ms. It’s like you’re worth neither a vowel nor an extra syllable if you’re single. 😂

I’m a Ms (when I have to be) and married……

the point is there is no Master option on OP’s form. So boys are Mr forever but girls have to be defined.

EdgeOfACoin · 29/11/2022 22:16

I picked Miss as my daughter is a baby. (My hypothetical son would have been 'Master'.)

I made a conscious decision to switch from Miss to Ms on my 18th birthday.

GodspeedJune · 30/11/2022 11:32

@EdgeOfACoin As the poster above you has mentioned, there is no option for Master on the GP registration form, so baby boys become Mr. It’s only women and girls whose marital status is deemed relevant.

I went with registering her as a Ms in the end.

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