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Victim Focus - accreditation.

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PlutoRavesWithStars · 14/10/2022 11:39

Victim Focus staff keep saying their courses are accredited, including Train the Trainer. Does anyone know which organisation has done the accreditations? It seems a little strange that it isn't mentioned on their website as different professional bodies have different recognitions for what people can state is an Advanced CPD course.

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Thelnebriati · 14/10/2022 13:21

Its on their website, they are CPD accredited. So are The Freedom Programme.

victimfocus-resources.com/products/victimfocus-academy-online-course-trauma-informed-and-strengths-based-practice-for-professionals

PlutoRavesWithStars · 14/10/2022 13:24

Ah, thanks -for some reason I was googling and couldn't find it.

I can now look at the process properly. I always thought that the courses would be accredited by a professional body related to the field

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freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 14:45

Ex VictimFocus employees here.

Only the e-learning is accredited, and even then only the full length courses, not the bite sized ones.

The Train the Trainer course is absolutely not accredited by anyone. It's 10 sessions of Jessica presenting her view of the world to you.

It's really expensive for what it is.

If you want to get something that will further your career, there are much better ways to spend all that money.

The strength of Train the Trainer is the link with VictimFocus as a brand - or it would have been, if it wasn't fast losing credibility.

I'm not sure what we're allowed to say here, but Google Tattle Life and Dr Jessica Taylor and you will learn that she is far from the ethical, trauma informed professional she projects in her public persona.

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 15:16

VictimFocus itself is toxic. They've lost of about half their staff in the last 6 months, I'm losing track of how many it is now.

Jessica is a textbook narcissist, and VictimFocus is a toxic place to work where staff are rewarded for their support of Jessica and punished for standing up to her - even when she's publicly bullying a survivor whose story she used in her book without permission.

She used several stories without permission in her books, and when women have complained she's lied about them and bullied them. Sally Ann has refused to back down and through their public exchanges, it's become very clear that Jessica's advocacy for a trauma-informed approach is hot air. Her actions, played out for all to see on social media, have demonstrated that she doesn't care one bit about vulnerable survivors, and that she lies outrageously.

She first claimed that Sally-Ann's story wasn't in the book, and that the support agency supporting Sally Ann had read the book and put her up to it because they hate her for some reason.

She revealed to anyone who'd listen - strangers online - the name of this agency. No serious professional or anyone with ethics would breach a survivor's confidentiality in that way.

She said Sally Ann was mistaken, that the story in the book was another woman's and that she had written consent for everyone in the book. She also told lots of people that the woman who's story it actually was, was upset about what Sally Ann was saying.

She painted a picture of Sally Ann as a crazy stalker who was obsessed with Jess and told people she'd had no choice but to call the police and that they would be arresting her, and also Rachel Williams, another survivor who stood up for Sally Ann publicly.

But this wasn't true. How do we know this? Well, partly because of Sally Ann's compelling testimony, but also because Jess's story suddenly changed.

It turns out Sally Ann had given permission - via a Facebook message, while distressed - but ONLY for her story to be used in a blog, never for the subsequent report or the book. There was no consent form.

And so Jess started saying that Sally Ann's admission that she'd given permission for the blog was sufficient permission for the book. Which means, all of a sudden, she DOES accept that Sally Ann is in the book - but no recognition that she's changed her story.

What about the woman who's story was supposedly in the book? Who was upset by the whole thing?

It was too late though, Jessica had hoist herself by her own petard. Her outrageous lies and bullying of Sally Ann were out in the public domain for all who cared to look, to see.

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 15:26

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freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 15:27

Oh well, not allowed to link Tattle life I guess!

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 15:38

Here's Sally Ann's Twitter instead...

www.twitter.com/sallyann98745

TimeForNowt · 15/10/2022 15:43

Unfortunately the CPd accreditation is only for face to face facilitated courses, not the elearning. How do I know? I'm the one who submitted everything to CPD with Jess telling me to present it all as facilitated content, not elearning. So if you're taking the elearning to count towards your CPD hours, know that it isn't the same thing and it may happen that the accreditation is pulled at some point in the near future....

TimeForNowt · 15/10/2022 15:55

Just to clarify, the packet of information I submitted to CPD for the 8 elearning courses listed on the VF website for sale, were all presented as if they would be delivered as f2f content, with accompanying workbooks, timetables, and facilitator's notes. (Prepared and written by me)

The accreditation process for elearning content is much more rigorous and complex, so I was advised to go for the f2f accreditation, and that it wouldn't be a problem to slap the badge onto the elearning content because "it's the same stuff."

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 16:04

Wow, I never knew that! Jess told me it was for the full length e-learning. It says it all over the website too!

I'd bet good money no one knows that in the organisation now except Jess.

TimeForNowt · 15/10/2022 16:07

Yep, she lies a helluva lot. I really regret my part in making her appear more professional than she actually is; she's just a charlatan.

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 16:13

So, let me get this right - the CPD only applies for 8 specific courses listed on the website for £39.99 but not in the format you can actually buy them in?

They all have the CPD badge on them.

You can't buy them from the website in f2f format. Nor has VictimFocus got any f2f versions of these courses coming up.

There are similar courses listed on their Eventbrite, but none are the same as the ones that have been through CPD.

Is that right?

I'm not surprised though. As we both well know, VF is far from ethical.

TimeForNowt · 15/10/2022 16:18

Correct. The only CPD accredited courses in VF (that I'm aware of) are not being delivered or available to purchase.

The accreditation process for elearning courses is very different to what is required for f2f delivery, but VF is using the CPD logo on the elearning anyway.

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 16:23

TimeForNowt · 15/10/2022 16:07

Yep, she lies a helluva lot. I really regret my part in making her appear more professional than she actually is; she's just a charlatan.

Yes, same here.

Jessica is just a grifter. It's such a shame. I thought I was joining a feminist, values based organisation. But it's a sham. What a shame it is.

I met some brilliant women working there. And saw them treated like absolute shit by Jessica. And the barefaced lies she tells are something to behold.

I've never worked anywhere where staff just vanish like that! Jess sacks people then just doesn't mention their names, and because everyone works from home, no one even knows they're gone! And it means they never get a proper goodbye or the other staff asking if they're ok.

Word is getting out though. People are finding out what she's like. She's trashed her own reputation with her public bullying of Sally Ann.

aweegc · 15/10/2022 16:50

I've been following the Sally-Anne situation from afar. Haven't worked there, never had any dealings with anybody at all from VF.

Recently JTA posted that she'd been exonerated from the claim she'd used someone story without consent. I imagined this was Sally-Anne's. Was it not?

I'm completely confused by everything going on.

PlutoRavesWithStars · 15/10/2022 17:00

The BPS haven't responded to many, many complaints - including mine. It's definitely not over - they are quite silly as they have a duty of care and standards to follow which they clearly haven't been doing.

The thing with the book, is it is not just Sally Ann - there's a few people but all are dealing with it through different routes.

Thanks for the accreditation information - I am actually raising something with various NHS trust as she has really (negatively) impacted my care with her views, lack of ethics, shitty research morals...

Her tactic seems to be Shut Up or I will Seek Legal Advice to Silence You.

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freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 17:15

Here is the CPD website. The courses listed are the 8 online courses VF sells in their shop (and now we know they're not even accredited for online!)

cpduk.co.uk/search?keywords=VictimFocus+

No mention of Train the Trainer.

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 17:27

aweegc · 15/10/2022 16:50

I've been following the Sally-Anne situation from afar. Haven't worked there, never had any dealings with anybody at all from VF.

Recently JTA posted that she'd been exonerated from the claim she'd used someone story without consent. I imagined this was Sally-Anne's. Was it not?

I'm completely confused by everything going on.

Well yes, that's what Jess wants you to think.

She's highly manipulative.

What actually happened was that the BPS said they didn't have enough evidence to take it further and the publisher said they were happy that because Jess changed the name, that's sufficient, she doesn't need consent.

That in no way exonerates Jess. She is meant to be an academic and an ethical, trauma informed champion of women and survivors.

The publisher isn't an academic publisher - if they were she'd have been in trouble. But they're just a bog standard, profit-driven commercial publisher, so they're only concerned that it wasn't illegal. Jess is making them money, they were always going to side with her unless forced not to by a lawyer.

The BPS have their own troubles and have often been accused of being toothless. Jess isn't a clinical psychologist - she's not qualified to actually see clients, although she likes to imply she is. If she was, she'd be bound by a stronger professional body. She's simply done a PhD in victim blaming and an undergraduate degree. She skipped doing a Master's.

The BPS saying Sally Ann didn't have sufficient evidence isn't Jess being innocent.

Jess has lied about and bullied a survivor publicly, after using her story without permission. Those are the facts. Unethical for any person to do that, but when it's the director of a supposedly trauma informed organisation, who is meant to understand the impact of her actions, it's downright abusive in my opinion.

Having seen how Jess treats her staff members, it's totally in character. Her real character that is, not the facade she presents.

PlutoRavesWithStars · 15/10/2022 17:29

Train the Trainer, I think it's that one is the one that the entire pass / fail mark is based on a viva with only JT. Is that right?

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freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 17:41

There are two programs with similar format, one is delivering the VictimFocus training sessions to professionals, and the other is for using the materials with adult and child clients.

The adult one, Train the Trainer, assessed with an observed training session and a Viva.

The child one, VictimFocus Facilitator, is assessed with just a Viva.

freefromthattoxicmess · 15/10/2022 17:43

Given that Jessica isn't qualified to work with clients herself, I don't understand why she thinks she's qualified to teach people who are, about their practice?

ShouldntHaveBeenSoHasty · 15/10/2022 17:48

Dr Jessica Taylor is rapidly losing all credibility. It was only a few months ago that she was comparing herself to Jesus ffs 🤣. She sees even the most gentle criticism or questioning, even by people far more qualified than she is as a personal attack because she’s a young, working class woman. It gets a bit ridiculous after a while.

aweegc · 15/10/2022 17:50

PlutoRavesWithStars and freefromthattoxicmess
Thanks for the explanations. That makes sense - sadly. It's really is so very sad that it's going this way. It was unnecessary. I mean it makes me feel sad, however, it's actually appalling. I have some very strong feelings about the lack of ethics involved in a lot of "mental health" practice by people who claim to be experienced after an online, weekend course in coaching. But what Dr. Taylor appears to have done is far, far worse.

And apologies to Sally Ann whose name I've misspelled and hyphenated!

PlutoRavesWithStars · 15/10/2022 18:23

It is very sad it is going this way, but then she hasn't really ever come up with anything original.

Naturally, clinicians who are "accredited" by JTs training programmes, are being way too slow to distance themselves from her because it will be an admission of getting sucked it.

There are clinicians who would rather cause harm to patients than admit that JT has done anything wrong, and are still touting out how awesome her training is, developing mental health services based on her views and negatively impacting patient care to the point that people have left services.

Thankfully there's a few journalists working on an expose piece of such services due to this (amongst other things)...

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TimeForNowt · 15/10/2022 18:54

The basic message is sound - victim blaming can cause bias, exist in clinical practice, and it should be challenged. Trauma responses should be recognised for what they are, and a compassionate approach taken.

Many, many clinicians already do all this.

Sadly, JT does not. Everything her company espouses: "Dedicated to challenging poor practice, discrimination and oppression of victims of abuse, trauma, and violence."

This categorically does not happen within the company, nor with JT's behaviour herself.

She'll be reading this thread - she always reads commentary about herself - so she has to know people's concerns are being raised over and over again. We won't be going away, Jess.