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The gushing obituary for a man who murdered the mother of his children

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Clymene · 10/05/2022 09:29

I am so angry about this.

This psychotic pig broke into his ex's house in the middle of the night and stabbed her to death while the children were in the house. And then hung himself in the garage.

Why? Because she was in a relationship with another man. Regan Tierney barely gets a mention in this fawning article which makes him sound like a paragon of virtue rather than a man who carried out a brutal murder in a jealous rage.

Those poor children.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/you-need-pick-kids-up-23910194

I'm going to complain to the Press Association.

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oakleaffy · 11/05/2022 06:43

Ownedbymycats · 11/05/2022 06:34

What a powerful post, this sort of reporting and treatment needs called out every time. Well done to the op and condolences to the family. It's chilling to think this violence went on for 10 years, imagine living your life line that until your tormentor decides to murder you.

Yes, why no mention in the article of the 10 yrs of previous abuse?

JakeyRolling · 11/05/2022 07:03

I'm not defending him, but the article is about an inquest into HIS death so of course it will focus on him. That's no fault of the MEN who, legally, can only report what was said in court and can't add their own arms and legs.

It says at the bottom there will be a separate inquest into her death, which will focus completely on her, redressing the balance.

brookstar · 11/05/2022 07:34

Shannonpaigexx · 10/05/2022 22:41

His family will never, ever see the children again. I am Regans sister, myself and my partner have legal guardianship over my niece and nephew. I witnessed first hand the mental and physical abuse for 10 years. His family enabled it and thought it was ok. The article really is sickening to read, especially hearing the bullshit that spews out of their mouth. They constantly threaten my family because they aren’t allowed anywhere near the children and glorify a murderer. I promised Regan I would protect her children and I will do that until the end of time. She deserved to live, she deserved to be here. He broke in, killed her while she slept and then phoned myself and my 80 year old Grandad. I’ll never, ever forget it.

I am so sorry for your loss. Those children are lucky to have you.

PineForestsAndSunshine · 11/05/2022 09:03

There is so much wrong with this.

The inquest into this monster’s suicide is doing everyone a disservice by writing it off as something isolated, out of character and unpredictable. The suicide was a direct result of his unchecked and seemingly unchallenged male entitlement and lack of emotional regulation and the society that nurtured this. Manchester City Council say the inquest system “ safeguards the legal rights of the deceased's family and other interested persons, highlights lessons to be learned and advances medical knowledge”. Not seeing much opportunity to learn and advance knowledge here.

The reporting is horrifying. Our free press is meant to be the fourth estate - a watchdog that can call out other institutions. This lazy reporting not only misses an opportunity to highlight the failings of the inquest, it activity spins a false narrative.

The fact it even happened in the first place. The fact our society creates monsters like him.

Regan and her children deserved better.

I am so very sorry for your loss @Shannonpaigexx

Herejustforthisone · 11/05/2022 10:07

KookaburraSit · 10/05/2022 12:09

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mum-called-police-after-ex-22850202

He'd broken her nose in 2012, had been violent throughout the relationship, and was threating to put her head on a stick eleven days before he murdered her and yet you've got this:

Recording a conclusion of suicide, Coroner Dr Alan Walsh, said he believed Mr Patten had 'snapped' and that his actions on the night of his death were 'completely out of character.'

It's not just his family saying this. It's the bloody professionals painting him as a mild-mannered man. Genuinely disgusting.

As a former editor I am appalled at the way this has been reported. Far, far too sympathetic. He’s a known violent abuser, Regan was failed multiple times and the constant repetition of his ‘troubles’, how great he was, how he wouldn’t hurt a fucking fly, is extremely troubling.

I’d take it to the PCC.

FridasSpectacularEyebrows · 11/05/2022 10:17

Shannonpaigexx · 10/05/2022 22:41

His family will never, ever see the children again. I am Regans sister, myself and my partner have legal guardianship over my niece and nephew. I witnessed first hand the mental and physical abuse for 10 years. His family enabled it and thought it was ok. The article really is sickening to read, especially hearing the bullshit that spews out of their mouth. They constantly threaten my family because they aren’t allowed anywhere near the children and glorify a murderer. I promised Regan I would protect her children and I will do that until the end of time. She deserved to live, she deserved to be here. He broke in, killed her while she slept and then phoned myself and my 80 year old Grandad. I’ll never, ever forget it.

I am so, so sorry for your family’s devastating loss, and like others, wish you love and strength as you care for your niece and nephew. They are lucky to have you protecting them. RIP Regan.

KookaburraSit · 11/05/2022 10:40

Shannonpaige
I'm so sorry too. It must have been hell to watch your sister being abused for so long, but then for you and your family to lose her so brutally when she was trying to get free, and - to rub salt in the wounds - to have reports like this, where others are praising and sympathising with him. I can't even imagine what you must be going through. I'm so glad the parents who enabled him are going to have nothing to do with your sister's children. I wish you and your partner every strength in bringing them up.

HRTQueen · 11/05/2022 19:40

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HRTQueen · 11/05/2022 19:44

Shannonpaigexx · 10/05/2022 22:41

His family will never, ever see the children again. I am Regans sister, myself and my partner have legal guardianship over my niece and nephew. I witnessed first hand the mental and physical abuse for 10 years. His family enabled it and thought it was ok. The article really is sickening to read, especially hearing the bullshit that spews out of their mouth. They constantly threaten my family because they aren’t allowed anywhere near the children and glorify a murderer. I promised Regan I would protect her children and I will do that until the end of time. She deserved to live, she deserved to be here. He broke in, killed her while she slept and then phoned myself and my 80 year old Grandad. I’ll never, ever forget it.

I’m so sorry this has happened and pleased you have legal guardianship

I wasn’t aware his family enabled his abuse I shall ask for my post to be deleted

Soubriquet · 11/05/2022 19:52

It’s always the way with these things isn’t it?

”He was an amazing father and husband”
”He would never have done this usually. Out of the ordinary”

I remember the first article that came out after a local man shot his wife and daughter and then himself in the swimming pool car park because she was going to leave him.

All the articles were people falling over themselves to say what a nice man he was and he wouldn’t have hurt a fly. That it was totally out of character.

His two adult sons however sent their own perspective of how abusive he actually was. That they were proud their mum was finally leaving him and gutted that he took that chance away. That he deserved to rot in hell

SommerTen · 11/05/2022 19:55

This murder is terrible and I'm very sad for Regans' family.
It's shocking how many women are killed by men known to them in the uk.
Im currently concerned about a close friend whose husband is abusive to her & her children, luckily social services are now involved...

But Please please don't describe the murderer as 'psychotic' unless there is evidence he actually suffers with psychosis.
It's unfair on people like myself who do suffer from psychosis as a result of illness and wouldn't ever hurt a partner.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 11/05/2022 19:56

oakleaffy · 11/05/2022 06:43

Yes, why no mention in the article of the 10 yrs of previous abuse?

Because it was from an inquest.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 11/05/2022 19:57

Shannonpaigexx · 10/05/2022 22:41

His family will never, ever see the children again. I am Regans sister, myself and my partner have legal guardianship over my niece and nephew. I witnessed first hand the mental and physical abuse for 10 years. His family enabled it and thought it was ok. The article really is sickening to read, especially hearing the bullshit that spews out of their mouth. They constantly threaten my family because they aren’t allowed anywhere near the children and glorify a murderer. I promised Regan I would protect her children and I will do that until the end of time. She deserved to live, she deserved to be here. He broke in, killed her while she slept and then phoned myself and my 80 year old Grandad. I’ll never, ever forget it.

I am so, so , sorry.

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 11/05/2022 19:57

I will also ask for mine to be deleted.

Clymene · 11/05/2022 20:01

They are Ryan and Luke Hart @Soubriquet who set up cocoawareness to raise awareness of coercive control. They worked with Sally Challen's son and Level Up on the media guidelines for reporting homicide in DV situations which have been mentioned a couple of times. I know this was reporting on an inquest but most of these could have been followed without compromising the reporting of what was said in the inquest.

From the guidelines:

Here are the five things to remember:
1 Accountability: Place responsibility solely on the killer, which means avoiding speculative “reasons” or “triggers”, or describing the murder as an uncharacteristic event. Homicides are usually underpinned by a longstanding sense of ownership, coercive control and possessive behaviours: they are not a random event.

2 Accuracy: Name the crime as domestic violence, instead of “tragedy” or “horror”, and include the National Domestic Violence Helpline at the end of the article: 0808 2000 247.

3 Dignity: Avoid sensationalising language, invasive or graphic details that compromise the dignity of the dead woman or her surviving family members.

4 Equality: Avoid insensitive or trivialising language or images.

5 Images: Avoid using stock images that reinforce the myth that it’s only a physical crime.

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Soubriquet · 11/05/2022 20:03

Yes I saw them mentioned on another post when I scrolled back.

Just couldn’t remember the names off the top of my head.

Strong strong boys to keep fighting like they are

Clymene · 11/05/2022 20:05

I'm sorry @SommerTen. That was really thoughtless of me.

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KellyGil86 · 11/05/2022 20:43

💚 Your really are one of the strongest people I no Shannon Regan will be so proud of you abd the family and the strength you have shown through out the last 2 nearly 3 year. You are doing a amazing job with the kids and that shows ❤️ Regan will neva be forgotten 💚 the article is all bull shit and we no that, we no what that scum was like and everything he did and put her through he will burn in hell where he belongs. I will always miss my beautiful friend and never forget the happy memories I have 💚 xxx

stopwaitingforpermissiontobeyou · 12/05/2022 21:27

Clymene · 10/05/2022 20:51

Because his first post was criticising me and saying the father is innocent and stupidly I got drawn in. I'm afraid he appears to be following me around at the moment. Sorry about that

I started this thread to criticise the reporting. I just don't believe the journalist twisted the words of the witnesses so that they said something entirely different to what the witnesses said. I do believe she engaged in very selective reporting and that was the basis of my IPSO complaint. I think this article is irresponsible, inaccurate and detrimental to the victim and her family.

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Two things.

Im not a man.

Secondly -im not following you around?i dont even recognise your username. And i wasnt critcising you! I was criticising the paper!

JaninaDuszejko · 12/05/2022 21:47

Is there a way to complain about the Coroner's remarks? Looks like they need retraining in how to deal with domestic violence.

oakleaffy · 13/05/2022 09:06

Herejustforthisone · 11/05/2022 10:07

As a former editor I am appalled at the way this has been reported. Far, far too sympathetic. He’s a known violent abuser, Regan was failed multiple times and the constant repetition of his ‘troubles’, how great he was, how he wouldn’t hurt a fucking fly, is extremely troubling.

I’d take it to the PCC.

This is truly awful-
This murderer clearly has form for violence and serious harm.
I’d not heard of this horrible case before, and by reading the article, it does paint the murderer as a previously mild mannered man who was destroyed by the victim for finding a new partner.

The backstory of the murderer’s harm and violence and control towards Regan over ten years isn’t touched upon.

KimikosNightmare · 13/05/2022 22:31

A580Hojas · 10/05/2022 14:32

Shouldn't your complaint be to the Coroner rather than the newspaper? It isn't an obituary.

Yes, I agree the newspaper, whether inadvertently or not, has done a public service in reporting it. The other MEN reports are quite clear about his true nature.

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