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A Woman-Only Country

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greasyshoes · 27/03/2022 21:30

Just a random thought; what if there was a country in which only women were allowed to live?

Googled and found very little on the topic, so decided to start a thread. Would it work in practice? Would it be beneficial? Would such a country have any problems, and what would those problems be?

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123ZYX · 27/03/2022 21:35

I would have thought that majority of people who would stay longer term would be old - women with adult children.

There would be a continuous stream in and out of younger women, but the majority would want a family, which would mean needing to meet men and would then have to leave children with the dads or stay in the same place - few dads would allow the children to be taken away from the country they were born.

You would end up with the majority treating it as a long term gap year and not wanting to make a serious commitment to long term improvements.

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123ZYX · 27/03/2022 21:36

That should be older, not old (sorry!). I'm thinking maybe 50 upwards, not elderly

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ImAvingOops · 27/03/2022 21:37

Would never work - the little boys raised there wouldn't be citizens as adults of their own country. You can't raise children to be stateless adults.

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NewBootsAndRanty · 27/03/2022 21:39

@ImAvingOops

Would never work - the little boys raised there wouldn't be citizens as adults of their own country. You can't raise children to be stateless adults.

This.
At what age should male children have to leave the country?

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peanutbuttertoasty · 27/03/2022 21:40

I'd move there in a flash! 😆

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Plumspears · 27/03/2022 21:43

Ummmm, the population would die out fairly snappily, I'd imagine

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KineticSand · 27/03/2022 21:50

There is a novel called Herland by Charlotte Perkins Gilman that imagines exactly this. 3 male explorers get lost there. It's a good read.

Also brilliant and more well known by the same writer- The Yellow Wallpaper. Brilliant feminist short story about PND.

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greasyshoes · 27/03/2022 21:53

Would never work - the little boys raised there wouldn't be citizens as adults of their own country. You can't raise children to be stateless adults.

What if technology had developed to the point where it was widely, and cheaply, possible to select the sex of a child, so all women could just select girls?

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EveSix · 27/03/2022 21:54

Women's communes are a nice compromise, more transient.

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Furx · 27/03/2022 22:01

Femlandia is a good dystopian tale along these lines.

Was a Kindle Daily Deal not so long ago.

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123ZYX · 27/03/2022 22:03

It sounds idyllic for a few years to give young women a chance to move into adulthood seeing women in positions of power and influence and being able to make mistakes as become who they're going to be without the risk of VAWG as a constant background fear.

Maybe as a place women can visit as a gap year/ years, then return to later in life to lead, support and influence. Somewhere between a commune and a country

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ImAvingOops · 27/03/2022 22:14

Even if you could select the sex of your baby, at some point a woman born and raised there will want to live in her country of origin with a husband or have children without purposely selecting their sex.
A country which bans men also bans women from the freedom to live as they choose in their own nation.

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greasyshoes · 27/03/2022 23:24

Even if you could select the sex of your baby, at some point a woman born and raised there will want to live in her country of origin with a husband or have children without purposely selecting their sex.

Maybe it could only work then if it was possible for women to freely leave and go to another country. Would maybe have to be a country inside a country sort of scenario.

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BuanoKubiamVej · 27/03/2022 23:42

Read "Who Runs the World" by Virginia Bergin.

A pandemic virus that females are immune to but is pretty much 100% fatal to males. There are sealed sanctuary cities kept totally isolated where males can survive. All conception is achieved remotely. If a woman conceives a male child she gives birth into the arms of strangers who will raise her son as if she so much as gave him a hug she would infect him and sentence him to death.

But a boy escapes the sanctuary and doesn't die.

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MangyInseam · 27/03/2022 23:44

@greasyshoes

Would never work - the little boys raised there wouldn't be citizens as adults of their own country. You can't raise children to be stateless adults.

What if technology had developed to the point where it was widely, and cheaply, possible to select the sex of a child, so all women could just select girls?

Maybe the story goes, a male is accidentally born, and because he learns to hate women who expel him and his mother he plots to take over the country, harnesses the women as birth-tanks, and develops a male-only society.

Or it could turn out like an all girls middle school.

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greasyshoes · 28/03/2022 00:50

Maybe the story goes, a male is accidentally born, and because he learns to hate women who expel him and his mother he plots to take over the country, harnesses the women as birth-tanks, and develops a male-only society.

"Man" is analogous to "woman", not "male".

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LadyCordeliaFitzgerald · 28/03/2022 01:12

Inevitably men would invade to rape, and to take territory.

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MangyInseam · 28/03/2022 02:18

@greasyshoes

Maybe the story goes, a male is accidentally born, and because he learns to hate women who expel him and his mother he plots to take over the country, harnesses the women as birth-tanks, and develops a male-only society.

"Man" is analogous to "woman", not "male".

I don't imagine anyone will be confused that I am talking about a male kangaroo, or pillbug.

Arguably it's not the highest level of literary styling to mix them, but I don't generally expect to be reprimanded on MN for that. (Sorry about the preposition.)

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User310 · 28/03/2022 02:24

I couldn’t think of anything worse! 80% of the problems I have encountered both at work and socially have been caused by nasty, bitchy, insecure women.. I work in the NHS!

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EmmaH2022 · 28/03/2022 02:51

@peanutbuttertoasty

I'd move there in a flash! 😆

Me too
Pun intended!

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Pyewhacket · 28/03/2022 03:04

@User310

I couldn’t think of anything worse! 80% of the problems I have encountered both at work and socially have been caused by nasty, bitchy, insecure women.. I work in the NHS!

I work for the NHS and totally agree. Not to mention the utter shit I suffered from my mother.

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deydododatdodontdeydo · 28/03/2022 13:56

@User310

I couldn’t think of anything worse! 80% of the problems I have encountered both at work and socially have been caused by nasty, bitchy, insecure women.. I work in the NHS!

Me too, starting with school "friends" and onwards.

I imagine it would work for some women though.
Communes (mixed) exist, and they work for some people but not others, or at least not long term. I would think this would be similar.

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WellThisWentWell · 28/03/2022 16:22

@peanutbuttertoasty

I'd move there in a flash! 😆

Same!

Also, the best part would be that it would self select out women who center/panders to men, and probebly kids too.

So, I’d be in good company.

Not to mention: how SAFE it would be!

Also I don’t think with that group there would be much of ”bitching” (seriously, on feminism board?)

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greasyshoes · 28/03/2022 18:32

Inevitably men would invade to rape, and to take territory.

It could be part of NATO or something, then it would be safe.

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Narutocrazyfox · 28/03/2022 18:36

It would be awful. I'd hate to live there. It's so incredibly sad that anyone would even hypothetically consider this, much less want it to exist. I wouldn't want to live anywhere without my sons, brothers, dad and husband - they're the most incredible men alive (to me, obvs!)

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