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NHS service failures leading to forced pregnancies

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NumberTheory · 03/11/2021 18:40

Independent reporting that women are being forced to continue with unwanted pregnancies because of problems with access to contraception and abortion services.

Under investment in the NHS is just stacking problems on top of problems.

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NiceGerbil · 06/11/2021 22:55

I would be wary of bpas here even though pains me to say that as obv it's about an agenda.

To me, a delay to the usual really quick access is a delay. And with abortion that's important of course. Distressing and complicates things.

But so many of our abortions are so so so early that what does delay mean? In terms of stats? 6 weeks to 8 weeks. Or 6 weeks to 20?

I feel they have picked some individual stories to back their push to keep telemed. Which I agree with. But this article feels not quite giving the whole picture. To me.

We're very lucky to have the laws and access that we do- yes there are issues but globally we have great access and laws with way less restrictions.

I would want to see stats. Is bottom line. And I do think that forced pregnancy if referring to NHS working as hard as can with covid etc to keep things going and it's not significant delays. Then it's unfair. Forced pregnancy due to abortion issues to me conjures up no abortion due to missed deadlines, and woman has to have baby.

NiceGerbil · 06/11/2021 22:59

Just googling a bit looking for stats. This came up from bpas

'BPAS comment on Abortion Statistics 2020
10 June 2021

Government statistics demonstrate that telemedical abortion care has enabled women to end pregnancies at earliest gestations

Data released today from the Department of Health shows that the introduction of telemedical abortion services has enabled women to undergo abortion at the earliest gestations since records began.
88% of abortions in 2020 were performed at under 10 weeks gestation, in comparison to 82% in 2019 and 77% in 2010. This includes 26% of abortions being performed before 6 weeks’ gestation in 2020, compared to only 15% in 2019.
The data also reflects the impact of the pandemic upon women’s pregnancy choices with increased rates among older women, women who are already mothers, and women living in the most deprived areas.
BPAS has said that Britain’s telemedical abortion care is now “the standard of high quality, woman-centred care in countries around the world” and that the data released today supports the continuation of this service. '

NiceGerbil · 06/11/2021 22:59

So that's a bit ???

NiceGerbil · 06/11/2021 23:10

When it comes to reproductive health in England Wales (Scotland NI different). The things I think are-

Did they reduce the MAP cost? It comes up from time to time. It was set high on purpose. Reasons to do with women being... Something. Don't know if that was changed. If not that needs doing asap.

Telemedicine for pills great.
Interesting point! I've seen a stack of threads on here with op purporting to be woman who used telemed or regrets abortion that wasn't telemed and thinks bad idea. The threads that I've read have had agenda to push and op not telling truth stamped all over them. I assume usual influx here on so many divisive issues. So there is pushback.

My feeling is govt will keep. Cheaper (massive benefit for them), better for women, safe etc. I don't think will go.

Can contraception checkovers be done away from GP? Easier cheaper at clinics? Pharmacy even?

In general though we are very lucky on this, from a global view, from a view of mainland Europe.

I need to see stats setting out numbers, length of delays etc.

KimikosNightmare · 07/11/2021 00:54

The only stats I could find were to June 2020 which showed 4,500 more abortions than in the 12 month to June 2019.

That takes us to the first 3 months of lockdown. The stats to June 2021 will be interesting.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 23/11/2021 21:34

Flowers, Halloweenie13

SenselessUbiquity · 23/11/2021 23:22

Late to this but can I just say I am furious about the dismissive word "convenience" being used to discredit a reason for not wanting to carry, bear, and bring up a baby. That's rather a lot more than an "inconvenience"

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