Is there a solution to women being attacked by strangers?

[Hoardasaurusterf]

Just pondering as I pass the time on a long train journey! There's been a lot in the media following the horrific murders of Sarah Everard & Sabina Nessa (among others) about safety. Suggestions such as the 888 app are considered victim blaming.

So how do we tackle it? Is it possible to change these mens' behaviour? Would changing society's view of women as sex objects, lesser humans etc really stop those with the worst intentions? I'm sure higher rape conviction rates would help but I feel that would be more for date rape/known assailant situations than random attacks by strangers?
I just feel that it would be so difficult to change the behaviour of men who would go so far as to abduct a stranger off the street to rape and/or murder. Educating such men that women deserve respect just won't cut it. So what can we do? Feeling quite despondent as mum of a teenage dd that nothing has changed since I was a teen 30 yrs ago. If anything it's gotten worse

Know how ridiculous that seems but women aren’t as strong as men. I’d want my daughter to be safe. I’d rather her get in trouble for hurting than be hurt herself honestly.

I was thinking about this earlier and I think there should be more penis chopping off. Bring back the Bobbit. Maybe if men felt that there was a very real likelihood of having their manhood chopped off at any given time they might feel just an inkling of what it’s like to be a woman.

If every date meant that a man was in fear of losing his dick, if men went to sleep at night hoping like hell that they’d still be intact in the morning, and if every week 2-3 men lost their dick, it might focus their minds on how to stop terrorising women.

Only half joking.

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Few months of time if caught would be worth the risk for my dds safety. They’d get a nasty shock when she’s a black belt with a knife

@RaisedByPangolins

I was thinking about this earlier and I think there should be more penis chopping off. Bring back the Bobbit. Maybe if men felt that there was a very real likelihood of having their manhood chopped off at any given time they might feel just an inkling of what it’s like to be a woman.

If every date meant that a man was in fear of losing his dick, if men went to sleep at night hoping like hell that they’d still be intact in the morning, and if every week 2-3 men lost their dick, it might focus their minds on how to stop terrorising women.

Only half joking.

Agree with this haha

Don’t take a knife as you or your daughter could get into serious shit if you were caught with it. It can also be turned on you. I’d take something like Deep Heat spray instead if you’re worried. It stings like mad and means you can get away.

Long sentences for violent and sexual crime. Treat violent porn like child porn.

Increase likelihood of prosecution for violent/sexual crime - increase police resources to record and investigate sexual and violent crime, consider cctv, maybe encouraging people to video harassment to submit as evidence and report early?

There are always going to be people who are psychopathic, and people with poorly controlled violent tendencies.

So I think the two approaches to minimize violence from such people are either reduce their opportunity, or reduce their numbers.

Reducing opportunity is largely going to involve things like social customs and expectations that make it harder for bad people to access women, or easier for women to get away from them. So domestic violence shelters, effective police work. And then things like the kinds of rules we have around safeguarding, don't go off with strange men alone, etc. Of course there are downsides to that kind of safeguarding in terms of autonomy, and the courts and police are constrained in order to prevent miscarriages of justice. So it's a balance.

As far as producing fewer predators. Psychopaths are probably always going to be a fairly fixed part of the population, so others might be a better target. One element is to change the way the culture thinks about sex. It's not a popular view but I think a casual attitude to sex tends to lead to a more casual attitude to assault. Reduce sexualization of women in the media and especially porn. So that all speaks to values.

But also, there will always be people who struggle with antisocial desires. Something we've failed on as a culture is that self-control is something that people get better at through practice, and it doesn't always stay in the lines. A person who has poor self-control is going to find it affects them with many things, where it doesn't it's usually the things they aren't so interested in. Our culture positivly encourages an attitude that says we have to satisfy our desires and waiting for the right time is not seen as especially praiseworthy. It works against consumerism and acquiring debt. We don't really encourage sexual chastity, either, it tends to be made fun of.

If we want people who have good self-control we need a culture that cultivates it.

My two biggest things that wouldn't require a wholesale change in individual's values would be getting rid or porn, and probably changing the drinking culture. A lot of domestic violence and sexual assault correlates with drinking and it also makes women vulnerable. Men who have FAS or FAE also tend to be more impulsive and are overly represented in the prison system so maybe it would even help with that.

Knives will almost always be used against you by a stronger attacker. I have been looking into specific martial arts that utilize body weight against the opponent (like Krav Maga and Ninjitsu) for my daughters. I am sure there are more out there, but these are the two I know of, and some women’s self-defense courses combine them. I can’t help but think it’s definitely valuable learning these things, but also remind everyone that a vast majority of SA is still committed by family and friends. (Often more than once.)