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What message is this sending to our daughters (Brownies)

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Butifyoucloseyoureyes · 06/10/2021 07:09

My DD has just started attending Brownies and LOVES it! We were reading the guide book that was issued in her first session and it calls out the brownie guide law:

“A brownie guide thinks of others before herself and does a good turn everyday”

This is against the Cub Scout law:

“Cub scouts always do their best, think of others before themselves and do a good turn every day”

Isn’t the phrase ‘think of others before themselves” more apparent in the brownie motto? This places more of an emphasis of putting others first and providing the message that others should always come before you and your needs etc.

Perhaps peri-menopausal me is questioning this as I’m no longer someone who wants to sit back and accepts certain messages being handed down to our children (especially ones where the emphasis for Cubs is placed more on the ‘do their best’ bit) and I really do get the meaning behind the motto however in this day and age it doesn’t quite sit right with me.

Does anyone agree?

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HungryHippo11 · 07/10/2021 04:23

They've girlified the curriculum (removing interest badges/ focusing on craft/cake decorating etc instead of baking) added a focus on campaigning.
Not sure what you mean by "girlified" but my Brownies are doing a lot less craft than we used to. This year we have done games and crafts but also learnt about space, done science experiments, next week we are using a hammer and screwdrivers to make wooden items. Thats all within the programme.

And I'm not sure why so many people are hung up on "cake decorating"... there's no "cake decorating" badge, there's a "baking" badge.

Maybe it depends on which Brownie unit your daughter goes to.

HungryHippo11 · 07/10/2021 04:29

They redid the badges and etc a few years ago. I was dismayed by the new ones. They were skewed towards 'feminine' activities in a way they weren't before.

Please let me know what is so "feminine" about archaeology, baking, aviation, local history, zero waste, dancing, space, human rights or mindfulness badges? Not all the badges but the ones I can think of off the top of my head at 4am. They seem quite broad and inclusive IMO.

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