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Question Time last night: rape
endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2021 09:56
I was astonished at the long rant by the male audience participant who claimed that men get raped far more often than women, and get raped by women too. Fiona Bruce was the only person who tried, gently, to challenge his statements. Male violence is the problem. Technically and legally women cannot rape. I found his anger and aggression towards women very disturbing. The rest of the panel immediately went along with him.
BlowDryRat · 25/06/2021 09:57
I watched that and was yelling at the TV. What an absolute bell end that man was.
PurpleDaisies · 25/06/2021 10:00
I had to pause the telly to have a rant about it to DH who was watching with me. Absolutely awful.
Yes, men can be victims of rape…by other male perpetrators but overwhelmingly it’s a man on woman crime. Shouting “why are discussions about rape always about women?” was totally out of order. It wasn’t even just “what about men?” It was a tirade of woman hating bile.
It takes a lot to shock me these days but I was genuinely shocked by that.
SausagePourHomme · 25/06/2021 10:04
The worst part of this is that because they select the questions ahead of time, they'll have known what he was going to ask and specifically chosen him for the shock value. I attended a question time session in my local town and i was horrified at the questions they chose vs the ones they didn't. Setting thick and angry people up to show themselves up onscreen. Can't watch it anymore.
PurpleDaisies · 25/06/2021 10:05
@SausagePourHomme
He wasn’t asking a question-he was commenting as an audience member. Fiona Bruce was clearly trying to shut him down.
SausagePourHomme · 25/06/2021 10:32
I'm going to amend my use of "thick" to inarticulate. I was wrong to use that word.
GCAcademic · 25/06/2021 10:36
The rest of the panel immediately went along with him.
Wow. Who was on the panel? That is more disturbing than the ranting man. We all know that men like that exist, but the fact that a panel of presumably public figures agreed with him is really worrying.
HarebrightCedarmoon · 25/06/2021 10:41
I perhaps only heard half of what he said then as I thought it was a fair point that men are raped also and didn't hear the "by women" bit, though I did add "Yes, by other men!" as I wandered off into the bathroom.
In any online discussion specifically about male violence towards women though you can reliably do a count down, 5-4-3-2-1 before someone says "What about the Menz?"
endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2021 10:44
Caroline Lucas. Shadow Health Secretary. I will have to look up the others. My memory is shocking these days.
AssassinatedBeauty · 25/06/2021 10:46
According to the BBC iPlayer guests were
Robert Buckland MP, secretary of state for justice and lord chancellor, Conservative;
Jonathan Ashworth MP, shadow health and social care secretary, Labour;
Caroline Lucas MP, Green Party;
Victor Adebowale OBE, chair of the NHS Confederation;
Kate Andrews, economics correspondent at The Spectator
endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2021 10:49
Robert Buckland, Jonathan Ashworth
Victor Adebowale, Kate Andrews. Caroline Lucas.
endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2021 10:51
X post. Thank you Assassinated Beauty.
Thecatonthemat · 25/06/2021 11:27
How did he end up there when some of us never get a fair hearing....?
endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2021 11:40
And he got a long time to continue his rant.
OhHolyJesus · 25/06/2021 11:50
I didn't see it and I don't think I want to, but I would urge anyone who did and feels strong enough to complain should do so here.
www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints
Thecatonthemat · 25/06/2021 11:57
OhHoly I complain all the time .get the same reply. Don’t know if it’s changed anything, but I think I see a little sunlight occasionally
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 25/06/2021 12:12
The rest of the panel immediately went along with him
Did they!?!
How horrendous
Stickytreacle · 25/06/2021 12:25
I saw this and was shocked too, yet again, when women make up the majority of victims of rape, the situation is twisted to make it an issue that men suffer, and it is perpetrated by women!? I'm not denying that men can suffer from domestic abuse, but dear me, the fact that women can't even discuss rape issues without a bloke saying it is worse for them is beyond ludicrous.
littlbrowndog · 25/06/2021 12:52
I watched it
He went on for ages shouting.
It was hard to watch
KitchenDancefloor · 25/06/2021 13:14
I saw it too and specifically looked this up on MN to see if I was the only one who was appalled by his rant. And it really was a rant not a discussion point. He was allowed time to repeat the same thing over and over again, getting louder and angrier. It didn't seem like he wanted to clarify that men can be rape victims too, he just wanted to shout down a woman-focussed issue. Horrible misogynist.
endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2021 13:16
It was the complete pathetic response of the panel members that I found so depressing, not just the truly frightening hatred of women.
endofthelinefinally · 25/06/2021 13:18
Can you imagine if he had done that in a studio? Thank goodness he was only on a screen.
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