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Can anyone tell me what MIND do if you have been referred to them and released from A and E?

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ArmCabbage · 09/05/2010 22:16

I rang the police last night after a long time of stress with my partner, he was taken to A and E in the early hours. I was hoping he would be dealt with by the crisis team or admitted into a ward.
He was actually seen by a doctor who let him go and referred him to MIND.

Can anyone at all tell me what this will involve, if it is a long process and what MIND will now do?

I will ring them in the morning, their lines are currently shut so I am seeking answers.
He has not come back home from being in hospital and gone back to sleeping in his car.

Thanks.

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SirBoobAlot · 10/05/2010 01:06

That seems a very odd reaction - would you like to share any more details? Generally I would have thought that a mental heath team would be contacted as well as a suggestion of contacting MIND.

Hope you're okay.

Keziahhopes · 10/05/2010 02:28

Hi does your husband have support from anyone within your local CMHT? Mind might be the provider of services or advocacy in your area but they cannot do the work of a mental health team. Could you go to or phone the gp - a gp can refer someone to crisis team. And if it is night time and crisis team will not help without referral quickest way is A+E, though that did n't help, or out of hours duty dr who can refer for assessemnt by crisis team straight away.

Hope help comes tomorrow.

ArmCabbage · 10/05/2010 08:26

Sir Boobalot, history there, but quite a long read.

He sent a text saying he thought suicide was a good option. He doesn't come home, has bailed out of life, from bill paying to washing, to seeing friends or family etc.

I rang 999, I had no idea where his car was or what to do. They found him eventually, in a mess in his car in a car park and took him to hospital.

I have found out this morning that he then basically said he was fine, just didn't want to go home and they sent him on his way with a bunch of numbers in case he did want to talk.
He told them that he didn't mean to say he was suicidle, he was trying to get a rise out of me.

This morning he has rang in a complete state, he told me he couldn't spend another minute in the hospital but he needed help. He was sobbing, telling me he wasn't good enough for anyone, that he was a bastard, etc etc. Iasked him to come home but he said no. That he was too ashamed and not worthy to be in the house with us.
He really needs help, I am ringing mind in a while to see where to go from here.

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ArmCabbage · 10/05/2010 08:27

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/942777?pagingOff=1#19641432

I meant to leave a link Boobs

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Mrs1GeneGenie · 10/05/2010 09:09

I'd get an appointment with your GP ASAP to discuss further. As Keziahhopes said this will allow for further referrals for assessment from CMHT's etc. Be very clear with the GP what the problems is- if he won't go to the GP with you they can still make referrals based on the info you give them.
MIND have lots of different ways of helping people- did you manage to speak to them yet?

Hope you are okay sounds like a difficult situation x

Mrs1GeneGenie · 10/05/2010 09:13

p.s know I may get a bit of a slating for saying this but he does have responsibility for his own actions as an adult- if he was unable to do so he would have been assessed further in A & E and detained.
Please look after yourself and your dc x

SirBoobAlot · 10/05/2010 09:48

Christ, no wonder you're concerned.

You need to speak to your GP, but I would also contact your local mental health team personally. The GPs can take a while to do a referral, and then the team can take a while to get back in touch. From what you've described, it sounds like things are getting increasingly erratic, and I'm concerned not just for his well being but for yours.

This is a good team to contact.

Have you phoned MIND yet?

Also I disagree with Mrs1 - I was capable of being absolutely fine in the eyes of hospital staff and leaving a few hours after I had attempted suicide. They're only human and make errors in judgement.

Mrs1GeneGenie · 10/05/2010 09:58

Fair enough to disagree but was concerned about the 'he was trying to get a raise out of me' bit.

Not saying I'm right just wanted to raise it. If anyone goes mentions the possibility of carers support it might help

ArmCabbage · 10/05/2010 09:59

I've been on the phone to help lines all morning. I have spoken to consumer credit care about his debt, who were amazing. Such a good, kind, caring and lovely woman on the phone.

I rang mind and the local mind are calling me back today.

He has given me permission to make an appointment with his G.P. which I will attend with him.

I agree Genegenie, I am going to merely lay some foundations for him. It's a bit difficult for me to know where to turn so God knows how he feels. I want all the help on offer here for him to accept if he comes home. Then I can do no more........................

apart from sleep for a month

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SirBoobAlot · 10/05/2010 10:00

I see your point

ArmCabbage · 10/05/2010 10:04

As for a raise out of me, I know he wasn't trying to get one.
He wasn't here, I didn't know where he was and then he stopped answering his phone. The last thing he wants is attention of me, believe me. He was desperate, I could tell in his voice this morining too.
But I know what he was like, he was taken to A and E by to strapping policemen, loads of fuss and bottled it, highly ashamed and embarrassed. Not in a million years would he have chosen that time to show he felt weak.

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Mrs1GeneGenie · 10/05/2010 10:04

Sounds like you are being very supportive and giving him an opportunity to deal with this situation in a very constructive way. Hope MIND call you back soon.
Sending a cyber hug your way x

Mrs1GeneGenie · 10/05/2010 10:14

must have been very scary for him the police are not always great in these situations. Was not judging your DP in any way just wanted to offer an alternative view. You are the only ones who really know whats happening. Hope your GP is helpful

cestlavielife · 10/05/2010 14:35

glad you going to GP with him.

be very clear in telling the GP exactly what has been going on and your concerns. maybe write down a potted history?

try and explore the help available to him.

but - there is a limit to what they can do for him unless he really wants to acess that help.

MIND may be able to tell you what mn8ight be on offer locally eg day services etc. talk to them about what you personally can or cannot do with regard to what is available locally...

is very hard when they switch between "i am suicidal" /"i am fine".

ArmCabbage · 11/05/2010 08:06

I am afraid he has not paid a court fine and they will be arresting him and sentencing him this week. I can't get him to get out of his car, nothng I can do anymore but watch.

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Mrs1GeneGenie · 11/05/2010 08:24

Sorry to hear that ArmCabbage

The court should have to take his mental state into consideration and it could be an opportunity for further assessments by the CMHT etc.

How are you? did mind call you back?

cestlavielife · 11/05/2010 09:50

yes i think this arrest could actually help him in the long run. i am afriad all you can do is watch - but you do ahve useful information you can provide to the authorities.... and you could call his GP and let them know.

Mrs1GeneGenie · 13/05/2010 18:25

Armcabbage you ok?

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