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I need help, I don't know how to handle this

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viviinee · 12/04/2025 10:58

first of all, im sorry if my English is bad. it's not my first language

to resume, A few months ago me, my best friend and a person we will call Sandra went through something weird with my ex.

we all went through hard sexual things in our lives, it was a quite hard situation but it ended that my ex masturbated themselves a few metters away from us. he changed his version quite a lot of time to be honest, and we were all in the same room.

my best friend and I removed them from our life while Sandra and them stayed friend.

Sandra and us weren't friends anymore anyway as the time passed by before we cut it out.

however, I had a friend that I will call Maxime, they were weird because they changed their behaviours and advice EVERYTIME. hating on Sandra, at the point he couldn't accept the fact they could be a victim too as much as we felt like it; wishing Sandra to die etc.. Maxime is the partner of one of my closest friend but sadly, I distanced myself from Maxime but stayed friend overall

I felt quite betrayed when a few weeks ago I learned Maxime had good time with my ex, hiding it from me, without warning me.

I skip the details but me and my best friend were worried about Sandra and talked about our worry to a friend of them, who expressed everything for us. the day after, we made a long and hard call where I apologized to sandra about everything I've done during all those years, but got barely anything back.

and in the end, without saying the words “sexual assault” Sandra said I touched them during my sleep. at their breast and up their thighs. I didn't knew anything about that and express how much I was sorry about this, I validate their feelings.

My best friend reassured me, Sandra seemed reassured too but said something like “ If I wanted to ruin you to protect your ex, I would have said that. so don't feel scared”

I felt threatened anyway, but kept apologizing because it's the bare minimum.

we cut the call, I told everything about this to ALL my friends, staying as neutral as possible, giving all screenshots I had etc…

but Maxime was obviously really angry we were “so worried” about Sandra. and we tried to express ourselves the whole day, in the end they sent me a text where they said I was no better than my ex and that I had Sexually assaulted Sandra.

I don't know what to do, all my friends stay there except their boyfriend from who I was really close. everyone of them say that I wasn't aware of my own behaviours, that it is okay is Sandra felt bad, but it's okay if I feel bad too. they all try to reassure me that I'm not someone dangerous, a sexual assaulter.

I feel disgusted and afraid of this accusation, spread by someone who wasn't in that call, nor concerned and who hated my ex and was horrible to Sandra. I feel afraid of myself, and ultimately guilty of what I did in my sleep.

I went through sexual abuse in my life, I fought for the victims as much as I could and I will never deny I had fault and wasn't all white in any social problems I had. but I'm more than afraid of this and doesn't know how to see myself and to do if this keep going.

thanks for reading me, And I'm sorry, I tried to be as precise as possible without it being too long.

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Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 15:09

I'm sorry OP but I don't really know what's going on. I think you had a boyfriend who masturbated in front of you and some friends.

Now one of your friends has accused you of sexual assault. Is that correct? That you assaulted her in your sleep?

LavenderFields7 · 12/04/2025 15:35

This is too confusing.

333FionaG · 12/04/2025 15:40

You’re being accused of sexually assaulting a friend whilst they were sleeping? And your ex partner wanked in front of other friends? I think you might benefit from some face to face counselling because there’s some deep seated issues here.

viviinee · 12/04/2025 20:04

333FionaG · 12/04/2025 15:40

You’re being accused of sexually assaulting a friend whilst they were sleeping? And your ex partner wanked in front of other friends? I think you might benefit from some face to face counselling because there’s some deep seated issues here.

No, my ex masturbated himself while they were me, my best friend and Sandra.

Sandra and I aren't friends anymore and they told me, that while I was asleep I touched them.
I had no idea of this since a few days because I was asleep.
we talked about it, and apologized a lot, clearing expressing I wasn't conscious

but Maxime who hates me and who did a lot of bad stuff to Sandra (the reasons why me and my best friends were worried for Sandra) wasn't even part of the talk and said to me I was a sexual assaulter

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Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 20:15

You were asleep in the same bed and accidentally brushed against them?

viviinee · 12/04/2025 20:16

viviinee · 12/04/2025 10:58

first of all, im sorry if my English is bad. it's not my first language

to resume, A few months ago me, my best friend and a person we will call Sandra went through something weird with my ex.

we all went through hard sexual things in our lives, it was a quite hard situation but it ended that my ex masturbated themselves a few metters away from us. he changed his version quite a lot of time to be honest, and we were all in the same room.

my best friend and I removed them from our life while Sandra and them stayed friend.

Sandra and us weren't friends anymore anyway as the time passed by before we cut it out.

however, I had a friend that I will call Maxime, they were weird because they changed their behaviours and advice EVERYTIME. hating on Sandra, at the point he couldn't accept the fact they could be a victim too as much as we felt like it; wishing Sandra to die etc.. Maxime is the partner of one of my closest friend but sadly, I distanced myself from Maxime but stayed friend overall

I felt quite betrayed when a few weeks ago I learned Maxime had good time with my ex, hiding it from me, without warning me.

I skip the details but me and my best friend were worried about Sandra and talked about our worry to a friend of them, who expressed everything for us. the day after, we made a long and hard call where I apologized to sandra about everything I've done during all those years, but got barely anything back.

and in the end, without saying the words “sexual assault” Sandra said I touched them during my sleep. at their breast and up their thighs. I didn't knew anything about that and express how much I was sorry about this, I validate their feelings.

My best friend reassured me, Sandra seemed reassured too but said something like “ If I wanted to ruin you to protect your ex, I would have said that. so don't feel scared”

I felt threatened anyway, but kept apologizing because it's the bare minimum.

we cut the call, I told everything about this to ALL my friends, staying as neutral as possible, giving all screenshots I had etc…

but Maxime was obviously really angry we were “so worried” about Sandra. and we tried to express ourselves the whole day, in the end they sent me a text where they said I was no better than my ex and that I had Sexually assaulted Sandra.

I don't know what to do, all my friends stay there except their boyfriend from who I was really close. everyone of them say that I wasn't aware of my own behaviours, that it is okay is Sandra felt bad, but it's okay if I feel bad too. they all try to reassure me that I'm not someone dangerous, a sexual assaulter.

I feel disgusted and afraid of this accusation, spread by someone who wasn't in that call, nor concerned and who hated my ex and was horrible to Sandra. I feel afraid of myself, and ultimately guilty of what I did in my sleep.

I went through sexual abuse in my life, I fought for the victims as much as I could and I will never deny I had fault and wasn't all white in any social problems I had. but I'm more than afraid of this and doesn't know how to see myself and to do if this keep going.

thanks for reading me, And I'm sorry, I tried to be as precise as possible without it being too long.

I get the situation is REALLY confusing, and this is truly hard to sum up without it being too long

my ex masturbated himself months ago, we heard him a couple of times but he changed his version so much that we are ourselves not sure of everything.

Sandra was there one of those times (the one he stated as the only time he did it) and didn't see this as a problem so stayed close to him while me and my best friend didn't.

Maxime was really close to Sandra, but trashtalked a lot on them (wishing them to die, not believing them on a lot of things, cursing them etc..) and when I decided to distance myself, Maxime went back to Sandra.

me and My best friends were worried and talked about few days ago about this to a friend of Sandra. and then, Maxime sent me a lot of harsh text. it was a bit calmer but after the call with Sandra to apologize and explain ourselves, I learned that I've touched Sandra while I was asleep. Sandra knew I wasn't conscious, felt really bad but simply needed me to confirm it and apologize (I did both)

the call ended, I warned my friends so they could distance themselves. As I said I felt extremely bad and still do. And when I thought everything was calmer with Maxime, he sent me really harshs text where he said I was no better than my ex who masturbated themselves in front of us and that I had Sexually assaulted Sandra.

I never was awake nor aware of my behaviours and we're in different cities now, Even if I could, none of them would like to talk about this with a professional.
Even if I wasn't conscious I feel extremely bad, guilty and scared of myself.

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viviinee · 12/04/2025 20:18

from what they Said, I touched sandra's breast with one hand and their up their thigh with the other

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viviinee · 12/04/2025 20:26

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 20:15

You were asleep in the same bed and accidentally brushed against them?

from what Sandra Said to me, I touched sandra's breast with one hand and their up their thigh with the other

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Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 20:29

viviinee · 12/04/2025 20:26

from what Sandra Said to me, I touched sandra's breast with one hand and their up their thigh with the other

Sure.

viviinee · 12/04/2025 20:33

Maitri108 · 12/04/2025 20:29

Sure.

I get if you don't believe me, I'm really sorry I'm involving people on the internet
I'm truly scared and guilty of what I did, and even if I did it in my sleep and never knew about this before a few days ago, I never denied and will never do that Sandra felt bad and triggered

we went all through hard things in our lives, and we were friends for a really long time. I'm really sorry of what happened to them because of me, and me being asleep doesn't remove the impact it had on them

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LeonardCohensFamousBlueRaincoat · 13/04/2025 02:08

This is too hard to understand

viviinee · 13/04/2025 08:55

I'm sorry if my situation confuse people, It wasn't what I was looking for but I understand how hard is it to understand

I try to give as much details as possible to express how hard is it and that isn't a "2 days issues". a lot of person are involved and I think searching for answer on the internet might confuse people and me more than expected

however I thank all of you for the attention brought to my post, I'm not close to forum so I maybe choose the wrong one to express this..
I'm sorry if I triggered anyone, and I will probably delete this in a few hours

thanks for the support you tried to share

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