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Concern for potentially suicidal single mother

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WorriedDave · 13/05/2024 22:57

Hi,

I'm starting to get very concerned about my on/off partner who has a young son (8 years old) and no other family in the country and looking for advice on what I should do and what actions are likely to be taken.

To give a a rough summary of our relationship and then my concerns:

We have a slightly toxic relationship, she struggles with jealousy (I have a young child with a previous partner that was born during the first 6 months of our relationship), she really wanted another child herself. She often isn't faithful and often makes up lies to try make me jealous to make me feel how she does, even though I have never been unfaithful to her and constantly support her and her son in every way I can. She is also a functional alcoholic, probably drinking 100+ units a week in wine, spending 3-5 hours in the pub, 4-5 days of the week. She is very irrational with me, one moment very loving and affectionate and perhaps hours later telling me to back to my ex and never talk to me again, hours later going back. In drunken states, she has occasionally turned violent, twice involving police.

Sadly for her, her Mum recently passed away. On the night (3am) she found out, she was heavily drunk and was asking if I would take care of her son so she could join her mum and her ex who died from a drug overdose. She calmed down, sobered up and then travelled to her home country with her son to bury her mum the same day she died. She had never expressed suicidal thoughts to me before and at the time, while I was concerned I didn't believe she would do anything and it was a spur of the moment silly thought she expressed.

However now, a month after her mum passed away. She is now saying the same things again. While slightly drunk, she said she wanted to join her mum, when I asked her how she thought this would impact her son and she should think of him, she first asked me to take care of him but then said for the past week she had been thinking of taking an overdose and giving her son the same. She explained how her neighbour (flats with communal kitchen) had left some strong medication out which she had then hidden in her own flat to use to end their lives. I asked her where but she wouldn't tell me and that she would do it when I wasn't around. This was drunk talk however the fact she said she had these thoughts for a week and she is drunk everyday has me quite concerned. Hours before and the next day she wants to make plans for holidays, birthdays etc.

Her thoughts swing from positive to very negative quite often, this isn't alcohol induced but it certainly amplifies her negative sides.

I have a good relationship with her son, often taking him to/from school and other activities, as well as managing my own children half of the week when I'm not with them.

I have tried to advise her to speak to someone, contact her GP, etc but she isn't willing to. She has been on a waiting list for therapy for quite a while, before her mum died, as well as briefly attending an alcohol support group, I'm not sure who I should contact or what action they would take. After the last police involvement / domestic violence, social services became involved as her son was in the flat. My concern is that on the face of it, she is functional, the flat is clean/tidy, her son is fed, clothed, looked after, proactive with school work and does a few after school activities, etc, and things may look OK/good but I know she is both spiralling out of control with her drinking and the suicidal thoughts appear to be getting worse. She is often telling me she is scared, she loosing control and doesn't know what to do.

I'm worried if I reach out, this will get dismissed quickly if she doesn't open up herself as its my word against hers and on the face of it a functional/loving home for her child, and then I will be cut out with nobody left to keep an eye on them.

Dave

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Earwormed · 13/05/2024 23:01

That she is talking about overdosing her son as well as herself is a massive safeguarding risk. I don't know if she means it or not, but would not gamble with an 8 year olds life by not reporting this somewhere

StringTheory1 · 13/05/2024 23:32

She has expressed an intention to kill a child. Police. Now.

StringTheory1 · 13/05/2024 23:37

Also: you say that on the face of it, it’s a functional loving home for a child? And yet…

  • she is heavily heavily heavily alcoholic
  • spends multiple hrs in the pub each day
  • is not sober / safe enough to be looking after a child - what if there was an emergency?
  • she & child live in accommodation which has a shared kitchen with strangers from other ‘flats’, in which someone else left some potentially lethal medication lying around
  • she has obvious severe personality / MH issues resulting in extreme instability / jealousy / manipulation / rage ….. this will be impacting her parenting.

So I don’t know why you think that police would doubt your report that she’s saying she plans to kill herself & her child? It’s not a great leap really, is it?! Ring the police asap.

ElsieandMavis · 13/05/2024 23:37

I agree that you should report this. She is silently screaming out for help by telling you of her plans so please take that seriously.

Danioyellow · 13/05/2024 23:44

I’ve got to the end of the fourth paragraph and stopped when she told you her intentions to kill her son. When questioned about suicide alone a therapist will judge you on 3 things. Whether she means it. Which she does. Whether she has a method in mind. Which she does. And whether she has the means to (pills, rope etc). Which she does. That’s enough to get her sectioned for her own safety. Now try and imagine the severity of the situation when she’s talking about a murder suicide. For the love of all that holy PLEASE seek help! And if you think phone the police or social services is overreacting, please consider all of the murdered children whose neighbours thought the same when they only had suspicions, and not the mother literally telling them I’m going to poison my son to death. Every claim has to be investigated, try and gain evidence through messages if you can

WorriedDave · 14/05/2024 00:18

Many thanks for all the replies thus far.

Deep down I know I do need to act and this thread (even writing my own post) has helped give me some perspective. The stakes are clearly too high for me not to act. While she has told me she is too much of a coward to do it, she has also given herself the means and effectively planned how she would do it, if she was drunk enough (which she frequently is), then the wrong train of thought could be all it takes.

I don't want to make the report empty handed so I'll try and speak to her tomorrow while recording audio, possibly speak to the young neighbour about the missing medication and then go to the police to make a report.

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JumpstartMondays · 14/05/2024 00:25

Can you afford to wait though, @WorriedDave ? I'd not hesitate. Safeguarding is everyone's responsibility.

StringTheory1 · 14/05/2024 00:36

You really don’t need to worry about faffing around recording her… go to the police - tell them you know of a woman who is heavily alcohol dependent, is drunk most of the time, is living in shared accommodation with her young daughter, has severe MH issues, is threatening to poison her daughter to death then kill herself….

Police & SS will be there like a shot, and for all the reasons above (not just the small matter of the risk of murder/suicide) that poor child will be taken to a place of safety where she can be looked after by sober adults in more appropriate accommodation and kept from harm.

I can’t actually believe SS aren’t already involved in this mess.

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