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Hypnosis for phobias

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overthinkersanonnymus · 03/05/2024 21:11

Has anyone tried hypnosis or NLP for a phobia?

I have agoraphobia and I'm desperate to get on a plane and get on a beach!

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Eyesopenwideawake · 03/05/2024 21:46

Hypnotherapy/hypnosis can be very effective for phobias. Why? Because being afraid of a specific thing is not something we're born with - we only have two inherent fears; being dropped and loud noises - so it's been learnt at some point in your life. Anything the mind can learn, it can unlearn.

overthinkersanonnymus · 03/05/2024 22:07

@Eyesopenwideawake I wonder if it can work on a non specific fear? I have a weird form of agoraphobia and can only go about 10 miles from home before I start shaking and having a full blown panic attack.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 03/05/2024 22:13

Fear is fear, just as anxiety is anxiety. Yes, they have different names and can be triggered by specific circumstances but the underlying emotions are identical. Finding the origin of the problem is the key to solving it.

Can you recall when (and why) it started?

overthinkersanonnymus · 03/05/2024 22:17

@Eyesopenwideawake thanks for chatting!

I was on holiday 16 years ago and out of the blue, keeled over and had a massive panic attack, which left me in a state or depersonalization for over 2 years. I haven't been the same since.

My fear is being away from my "safe space" and triggering the depersonalization again.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 03/05/2024 22:34

Ok, that’s understandable, it is also fixable. Happy to chat more if you’d like.

overthinkersanonnymus · 03/05/2024 22:49

Are you a hypnotist? How does it actually work? I feel like I'm passed being fixed without sedation 😂

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Eyesopenwideawake · 04/05/2024 09:38

Yes and yes!

Although it can seem that a panic attack comes 'out of the blue' but they never do. And once we've had one it's very likely that they will continue. Let me explain.

Our bodies are constantly doing weird and wonderful things in their role of regulating energy in/energy out. We get random extra heart beats, surges of heat or cold, occasional lightheadedness, sudden pains, etc alongside the normal gurgles. Mostly we never notice these, or dismiss them as unimportant.

If, however, we're are particularly susceptible - because we're overtired, hungover, dehydrated, hungry, stressed or simply in unfamiliar surroundings (such as being on holiday) - we can become hyperaware of those completely normal events.

So, you're feeling fragile and all of a sudden your heart starts racing for no apparent reason. Your mind recognises this as abnormal and sets off the alarm bells. What's happening? Am I having a heart attack? Am I about to die? Your mind triggers the emotion of fear which floods your sympathetic nervous system with adrenaline as you go into the 'fight or flight' response. Now your heart really starts pumping, you get hot, dizzy, nauseous and every part of your being is behaving in a way that scares the shit out of you. That's why the vast majority of first time panic attacks end up in A&E.

As a result of this, a part of your mind sets up an alert to look out for this horrible thing happening again because it believes you need to be forewarned, in case the next one really is a heart attack. This means that the slightest change in your body, or even the hint of a change - those that you wouldn't have even noticed before - will make the mind hit the panic button. So you get into a cycle of fearing, and scanning for, signs and thus a panic 'disorder' sets in. It's real, it's debilitating and it can control your life.

That's the bad news. There is good news!

Firstly no one ever, EVER, died from a panic attack. Yes, they feel awful but they are not dangerous. If you can control your emotional response you can simply sit through it quietly until it passes, using your breath* to control your physical reaction. When you've done that once your mind will think 'Oh, that wasn't that bad. Maybe I don't need to overreact so much next time'. After a few times (or maybe just that one) you realise that it's not a big deal and they will fade away; stripped of their power.

My fear is being away from my "safe space" and triggering the depersonalization again.

If you are part of the approx. 80% who respond to hypnosis it would definitely help with your fear. In the Western world we are very rarely faced with true danger, the sort of danger that the fight or flight response was essential for hundreds of years ago. So your fear is a construct of your subconscious mind and can be unlearnt.

Sorry for the essay. It's raining outside and I'm putting off going out to poo pick the horse fields 😂

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overthinkersanonnymus · 04/05/2024 23:16

@Eyesopenwideawake that was so helpful. Thank you very much for explaining it so clearly!

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MillsAndBalloons · 04/05/2024 23:32

I've had hypnotherapy for my fear of flying.

I'm still terrified

Bakedbeansandtoast · 04/05/2024 23:35

I had EMDR for (amongst other things) emetophobia. I'm still not totally cured but probably 80% of the way there. And it entirely cured my fear of spiders!

boredscottishpirate · 05/05/2024 09:35

I did. No idea how it worked but it did. Happy to answer any questions.

Eyesopenwideawake · 05/05/2024 11:48

MillsAndBalloons · 04/05/2024 23:32

I've had hypnotherapy for my fear of flying.

I'm still terrified

That's a shame. Could be that you're part of the 20% who don't respond to hypnosis or that the practitioner just didn't do their job very well.

overthinkersanonnymus · 05/05/2024 21:50

boredscottishpirate · 05/05/2024 09:35

I did. No idea how it worked but it did. Happy to answer any questions.

@boredscottishpirate what was your phobia?

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boredscottishpirate · 05/05/2024 21:51

Sounds ridiculous but any adverse weather 😬

LuckyCharmz · 05/05/2024 22:00

I haven’t had it done but that is my dh’s job, and yes it does work. Really well.

boredscottishpirate · 05/05/2024 22:02

When I was hypnotised I remember thinking this is a load of rubbish and I need to get bread in my way home but when she clicked her fingers it was like a physical weight just disappeared 🤷‍♀️

overthinkersanonnymus · 06/05/2024 00:37

boredscottishpirate · 05/05/2024 21:51

Sounds ridiculous but any adverse weather 😬

Not ridiculous at all. Any type of extreme weather makes me anxious. To rainy, too hot, heady snow. That's amazing that it worked for you

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CheerUpFFS · 06/05/2024 01:06

Following this thread with eager eyes! I find that at home I can scoff and scoff food but in public and with people I don't know well I eat SO slowly and I get so overwhelmed about eating around them, I'd love to know it that can be cured with hypnosis! I just want to go back to eating unconsciously with other people and enjoying restaraunts etc. I think it's some sort of social phobia so get where you're coming from op, these phobias are so irrational but have such a big impact on us!

boredscottishpirate · 06/05/2024 06:38

I couldn't leave the house if it was icy, too windy or any chance of thunder and lightning. Hypnosis worked wonders. I still don't like it but I know it won't harm me and I can live like a normal person 🤷‍♀️

Eyesopenwideawake · 06/05/2024 08:33

CheerUpFFS · 06/05/2024 01:06

Following this thread with eager eyes! I find that at home I can scoff and scoff food but in public and with people I don't know well I eat SO slowly and I get so overwhelmed about eating around them, I'd love to know it that can be cured with hypnosis! I just want to go back to eating unconsciously with other people and enjoying restaraunts etc. I think it's some sort of social phobia so get where you're coming from op, these phobias are so irrational but have such a big impact on us!

That's an interesting one. As ever, the origin is the key to dealing with it successfully. Can you remember when and why it started?

DrTWETMIRF · 08/05/2024 19:05

I've often wondered about hypnosis for my phobias but it's a lot of money to waste if it doesn't work. For me, it's spiders and needles. Any suggestions on how to find a good hynotherapist and how to know if it's working or not?

Grmumpy · 08/05/2024 19:41

One session worked for me. After about six months the fear grad came back.

Grmumpy · 08/05/2024 19:41

Gradually

Grmumpy · 08/05/2024 19:43

Also worked for my sister..her fear as mice as they kept coming in from next door. Mine was being a passenger in the car, especially on motorways.

PossumintheHouse · 08/05/2024 19:46

I tried hypnosis for a fear of flying. It didn't work one bit.

The hypnotist - who was, on paper, an experienced and respected practitioner - told me a percentage of people never respond to hypnotherapy. I've no idea how accurate that statement is, or if he was just on the bluff.

A friend of mine was hypnotised to quit smoking and after the session he never puffed on another. No idea if they kept it up as we lost touch a couple of years later.