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Anxiety help please.

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user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 09:22

Im suffering with really bad anxiety attacks, going from one or two a day to several and feel constantly agitated and on edge. Havent slept and feel exhausted is there any service that can help me over this weekend? I feel i need some medication or something to help me, if anyone could advise i would really appreciate it, thank you.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 31/12/2023 09:27

What are you anxious about? Specifically - what are the thoughts that are running through your mind?

user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 09:32

Of feeling out of control and frightened, if i get in bed i feel scared and go and sit at the livingroom table with light, im recovering from anorexia so have alot of changes going and think this is adding to it.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 31/12/2023 09:51

What are you out of control of? And what are you scared of?

user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 10:30

Scared of not being able to breath or get out of flat.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 31/12/2023 10:40

OK. Do you do breathing exercises? is very good for reducing stress. Do you have asthma or any disorder that hinders your breathing?

What would prevent you from getting out of your flat?

Sorry for all the questions! Sometimes people simply get scared and anxious about being scared and anxious, with no underlying reason. If you are able to think rationally about the actual reasons for your feelings (not always easy I know) then you might be able to calm yourself, knowing that you aren't in any actual danger.

on the sympathetic nervous system is really useful in explaining exactly what's going on in your body when you get scared. Knowing that it's all completely normal can help.

Box breathing relaxation technique: how to calm feelings of stress or anxiety

In stressful times you can use the power of your breath to help calm feelings of stress or anxiety.Box breathing is a simple relaxation technique that can he...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEmt1Znux58

user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 10:58

Thank you so much for your help, its definitely anxious about being anxious and getting worse. I went to the drs on weds with nerve pain in feet and he thought that was caused by anxiety, i didnt really explain how anxious i am and has been getting progressively worse.
Ive tried hypnosis and meditation but find it hard to shut my brain off and relax.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 31/12/2023 11:36

It's very difficult for your brain to switch off when it's on high alert, looking for hidden dangers.

To explain - anxiety is the emotion that's triggered when there's something going on that's too important to be ignored. So it's very useful when we need to prepare for exams, or a job interview or a first date. It also tells us not to be late for the bus, to turn the iron off or to check that the house key is in our hand before we slam the front door behind us! So anxiety is both normal and essential. However once we've done the 'thing' it's telling us to pay attention to it should subside from (say) a 5 on a 0-10 scale to a barely noticeable 1 or 2.

If your anxiety is consistently raging at 8, 9, or 10 then one of two things are happening; either there's something really important that you are refusing to deal with so your anxiety is screaming at you or that part of your mind is getting really worried about something that's no longer appropriate in your life.

An example of the first would be not attending to your own self care, or sticking your head in the sand over a professional issue or relationship problem. Once you acknowledge the problem and start looking for solutions the anxiety will reduce - and start being helpful rather than a hindrance.

In the second instance it is normal for a small child to be afraid of the monster under the bed, but not being able to go to work/college because you were waiting for the monster to fall asleep is neither rational or appropriate! We learn, absorb and believe many things as children without the ability to think objectively about whether they are true or useful. If your anxiety is due to something that you were told or believed before the age of about 13-15 you need to consider if it's actually true or if you can safely ignore it.

user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 12:18

I think the problem is when my anorexic was at a bad point, i was referred to be put in an ed hospital for it i didnt want to do that and was recovering at home with support. The ed nurse then said if a bed came up and i refused they would look at getting me a mental health assessment with a view to being sectioned.
Thankfully my weight and health has improved sufficiently that the admission has been cancelled , i found out a few days before Christmas and its been since the threat got lifted that the anxiety has taken hold.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 31/12/2023 12:29

Do you think the threat of the sectioning was some sort of safety net? That if you didn't look after yourself then you knew someone else would? (Even if you didn't want it). Why do you think the anxiety has worsened?

By the way, calling something 'my' makes it personal and, in a weird way, more valuable. Calling it 'the' separates it from you as a person - as you've done at the end of your post.

user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 12:41

I dont know if its because the threat of a section and how terrified i was took up all my thoughts for the past six weeks, my anxiety has kicked in because ive got all that empty space where my worries were for and its something else to fill my head.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 31/12/2023 13:20

So you were terrified for six weeks and now you're anxious instead. Surely that must be a step forward?

Have a look at this worksheet and use it to 'put your thoughts on trial'. Thoughts aren't facts or truths - they are just ideas that waft in and out of your mind.

https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/docs/ThoughtRecordSheet7.pdf

https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/docs/ThoughtRecordSheet7.pdf

DarkAcademia · 31/12/2023 13:23

I’m so sorry you are feeling like this. Are you getting any sleep at all?

You have had really wonderful advice already, but do you mind me asking how old you are? Perimenopause in myearly 40’s (so quite young for it) triggered my anxiety to intolerable levels and I was in the worst place I have ever been in my life, and HRT put me back on track within a couple of weeks.

user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 13:28

I am 48 and haven't had a period for 9 years due to anorexia, I also wondered if I was going through the menopause but dr was very dismissive when I suggested it last week. My sleep is limited to an hour in a block at most I'm really struggling, and the anxiety seems to have no reason behind it.

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user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 13:29

Thank you for the links im looking at all of them and very interesting.

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user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 13:32

DarkAcademia · 31/12/2023 13:23

I’m so sorry you are feeling like this. Are you getting any sleep at all?

You have had really wonderful advice already, but do you mind me asking how old you are? Perimenopause in myearly 40’s (so quite young for it) triggered my anxiety to intolerable levels and I was in the worst place I have ever been in my life, and HRT put me back on track within a couple of weeks.

How did you know it was symptons of the menopause and did your gp take you seriously? How did you cope before the hrt took effect, obviously if too personal don't answer, thank you.

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DarkAcademia · 31/12/2023 14:21

Not too personal at all, and the more we describe it, the faster more of us will recognise it!

Fairly abruptly I developed:

A constant physical sensation of terror, even though there was nothing wrong. The heart pounding feeling you might get the night before a long planned expensive family holiday and you’re just falling asleep when you realise that you forgot to renew anyone’s passport. But ALL. THE. TIME.

Insomnia. Sometimes I’d be lucky to get an hour at dawn. The heart sinking feeling of hearing the blackbirds every morning because you are still awake.

Obviously, depression, because how could you not?

Weight gain, because I was exhausted and eating anything that wasn’t nailed down.

Then FINALLY, I recognised a pattern of my temperature rising and falling during the night from normal and comfortable to feeling like I was about to die of heat, and then it would fall again to normal, and about 20 minutes later, I’d feel myself get hotter and hotter again.

I was googling why kind of hideous and presumably fatal disease this pattern heralded and the internet was all “well, when you’re coping with menopause and hot flushes…” and I was “ohhhhhhh…. I see. 😳”

Rang my GP and she didn’t doubt me for a moment and prescribed HRT there and then, and I recovered in 2 - 3 weeks. All she said was if it didn’t work to come back to her. But it worked fine. I’m on oestrogen only because my Mirena is pretty new.

I thought I was dying. I tried therapy, every herbal remedy under the sun, it was awful. I was so embarrassed not to have pieced it together sooner!

I’m not saying it’s the answer to every fir everyone, but if you are over 38, I would address this as a possibility sooner rather than later, because a few weeks of HRT will either help or it won’t, and no harm done.

user1471601350 · 31/12/2023 15:01

DarkAcademia · 31/12/2023 14:21

Not too personal at all, and the more we describe it, the faster more of us will recognise it!

Fairly abruptly I developed:

A constant physical sensation of terror, even though there was nothing wrong. The heart pounding feeling you might get the night before a long planned expensive family holiday and you’re just falling asleep when you realise that you forgot to renew anyone’s passport. But ALL. THE. TIME.

Insomnia. Sometimes I’d be lucky to get an hour at dawn. The heart sinking feeling of hearing the blackbirds every morning because you are still awake.

Obviously, depression, because how could you not?

Weight gain, because I was exhausted and eating anything that wasn’t nailed down.

Then FINALLY, I recognised a pattern of my temperature rising and falling during the night from normal and comfortable to feeling like I was about to die of heat, and then it would fall again to normal, and about 20 minutes later, I’d feel myself get hotter and hotter again.

I was googling why kind of hideous and presumably fatal disease this pattern heralded and the internet was all “well, when you’re coping with menopause and hot flushes…” and I was “ohhhhhhh…. I see. 😳”

Rang my GP and she didn’t doubt me for a moment and prescribed HRT there and then, and I recovered in 2 - 3 weeks. All she said was if it didn’t work to come back to her. But it worked fine. I’m on oestrogen only because my Mirena is pretty new.

I thought I was dying. I tried therapy, every herbal remedy under the sun, it was awful. I was so embarrassed not to have pieced it together sooner!

I’m not saying it’s the answer to every fir everyone, but if you are over 38, I would address this as a possibility sooner rather than later, because a few weeks of HRT will either help or it won’t, and no harm done.

Thank you so much for that I also have hot flashes and cold chills but the symptons are difficult but alot are associated with anorexia recovery and my body readjusting. Thanks for taking the time to reply and share your feelings I really appreciate it.

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Lovinglifeand · 31/12/2023 17:34

Thank you DarkAcademia, you have described exactly what I've been going through these past couple of weeks. I am also menopausal so I will be visiting the Dr for HRT. Your post has given me hope.
I have found ibuprofen takes the edge off an anxiety attack if anyone is really struggling.

user1471601350 You have my utmost sympathy. It really is the most horrible feeling in the world. I really hope you get some help too.

DarkAcademia · 01/01/2024 09:46

Lovinglifeand · 31/12/2023 17:34

Thank you DarkAcademia, you have described exactly what I've been going through these past couple of weeks. I am also menopausal so I will be visiting the Dr for HRT. Your post has given me hope.
I have found ibuprofen takes the edge off an anxiety attack if anyone is really struggling.

user1471601350 You have my utmost sympathy. It really is the most horrible feeling in the world. I really hope you get some help too.

You’re welcome! I hope it helps!

Rafalito · 01/01/2024 10:27

You’ve had amazing advice here and I just wanted to send some good vibes your way. I suffered horribly with anxiety for a period and was diagnosed with an adjustment disorder - I had a series of very traumatic events happen in a short space of time and out of nowhere (it felt) I was paralysed by anxiety. Impending doom at everything from going to the shop to my children being harmed or hating me or my husband leaving or just anything and everything. It was so so horrible! I can only describe it as feeling paralysed. I just sat in bed or a chair all day and night with my mind whirring endlessly through doom cycles.

I was prescribed a low dose of sertraline for 6 months and some diazepam to sort my sleeping out. Within 4 weeks on the sertraline it lifted and by 6 months I was ready to come off it. I still see the psychiatrist on a less regular basis and I still use the diazepam when my sleep gets out of sync as we recognised that lack of sleep seriously triggers my anxiety and my ability to rationalise basically anything at all. I’d say on average I have 3 days every 3 months where I have to prioritise going to bed at 8pm and sleeping 12 hours to get back on track.

It is such a horrible, hopeless feeling and I send you all my sympathies - I really hope whatever the root cause you’re able to find a process which helps you get on top of it. Huge hugs x

user1471601350 · 01/01/2024 13:57

Rafalito · 01/01/2024 10:27

You’ve had amazing advice here and I just wanted to send some good vibes your way. I suffered horribly with anxiety for a period and was diagnosed with an adjustment disorder - I had a series of very traumatic events happen in a short space of time and out of nowhere (it felt) I was paralysed by anxiety. Impending doom at everything from going to the shop to my children being harmed or hating me or my husband leaving or just anything and everything. It was so so horrible! I can only describe it as feeling paralysed. I just sat in bed or a chair all day and night with my mind whirring endlessly through doom cycles.

I was prescribed a low dose of sertraline for 6 months and some diazepam to sort my sleeping out. Within 4 weeks on the sertraline it lifted and by 6 months I was ready to come off it. I still see the psychiatrist on a less regular basis and I still use the diazepam when my sleep gets out of sync as we recognised that lack of sleep seriously triggers my anxiety and my ability to rationalise basically anything at all. I’d say on average I have 3 days every 3 months where I have to prioritise going to bed at 8pm and sleeping 12 hours to get back on track.

It is such a horrible, hopeless feeling and I send you all my sympathies - I really hope whatever the root cause you’re able to find a process which helps you get on top of it. Huge hugs x

Thank you so much, its such a help to here other womens experiences and how things improves, it gives me hope! Going to try the gp again tomorrow and see if I can speak to someone who deals with mental health.
Did the Sertaline give you any side effects in the initial few weeks?
Glad you are feeling better and we're able to come off the tablets, Happy New Year to you.

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user1471601350 · 01/01/2024 13:59

Lovinglifeand · 31/12/2023 17:34

Thank you DarkAcademia, you have described exactly what I've been going through these past couple of weeks. I am also menopausal so I will be visiting the Dr for HRT. Your post has given me hope.
I have found ibuprofen takes the edge off an anxiety attack if anyone is really struggling.

user1471601350 You have my utmost sympathy. It really is the most horrible feeling in the world. I really hope you get some help too.

Hope you get the help you need and you start to feel much better soon.
Hopefully 2024 will be a good one for you x

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Rafalito · 01/01/2024 14:31

Honestly it made me feel very sick for the first two weeks so they prescribed me an anti emetic and that really helped. After that no I didn’t have anything but they did say it can make anxiety worse before it gets better and so they often give diazepam for the first month to offset that - but I didn’t experience that ( mine was so bad already I’m not sure how it could have got worse - the thought is horrendous!).

I hope you have a good GP - honestly I found that makes all the difference. Mine was so supportive of me when I wanted to try coming off it and remains really supportive if I have a wobble etc, it’s very reassuring. If you can, please do keep pushing for them to help because you don’t have to keep feeling like this, and I know how awful it feels just now, and that it will never stop feeling like this, but it can stop. Happy new year and sending a massive hug x

user1471601350 · 01/01/2024 15:36

Rafalito · 01/01/2024 14:31

Honestly it made me feel very sick for the first two weeks so they prescribed me an anti emetic and that really helped. After that no I didn’t have anything but they did say it can make anxiety worse before it gets better and so they often give diazepam for the first month to offset that - but I didn’t experience that ( mine was so bad already I’m not sure how it could have got worse - the thought is horrendous!).

I hope you have a good GP - honestly I found that makes all the difference. Mine was so supportive of me when I wanted to try coming off it and remains really supportive if I have a wobble etc, it’s very reassuring. If you can, please do keep pushing for them to help because you don’t have to keep feeling like this, and I know how awful it feels just now, and that it will never stop feeling like this, but it can stop. Happy new year and sending a massive hug x

Thank you that's really helpful, I have someone coming from the eating disorders service tomorrow so they may help or advise. Thanks for sharing.

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chittyshittyohffs · 01/01/2024 16:40

No advice im afraid as im in the same boat. It started about a week ago, no obvious trigger, apart from maybe drinking too much on Christmas Day but who doesn't.

It is hell. I feel like im going insane.