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My sister is making mum ill

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Venu · 15/08/2023 19:20

My sister suffers from severe anxiety and maybe bipolar and has been medicated since she was 17. She is now 48. I am 51. She has seen many psychologists over the years and has had many episodes over the years. She is high up in the world of finance and is very clever. There are times when she takes time out from work for mental health. She is involved in many pursuits such as competitive hockey and sailing. She feels her problems stemmed from our very strict and often stifling upbringing and she may be correct. She doesn’t present well and is unkept and won’t shower at times etc. She has a partner she lives with but their relationship deteriorated and she started seeing another guy behind his back. He suspected this but my sister denied it. She said she was lonely but didn’t want to move out as she didn’t want to lose her security. Her partner is quite happy living in the house with my sister and they didn’t sleep together and are more like house mates. This guy she was seeing has turned feral as my sister started seeing another guy! He attacked her and tried to strangle her because he wanted to see her phone. Police caught it all on body worn images. This guy is not supposed to have contact with her. He contacts her all the time. She responds. He wants sex to calm him down. He is on drugs too. Her partner works away a lot so this all happens when he is away it seems. He bit sone of her ear off recently when she met him in.

When he first strangled her, she rang me. We all live in different countries. My parents were closer so I made the difficult decision to tell my parents. They are in their 80s. They didn’t go over as they were worried about their safety. At that stage I was going to fly over. I live in the UK and she lives in Canada and my parents in Australia. The police were involved but she didn’t want to press charges in both occasions. The police know who he is.

I arranged for my sister and I to visit my parents. Mum has been not sleeping properly now for months since the strangling. I didn’t tell her about the ear ripping. My mum is desperate for my sister to open up to her but my sister refuses. Last night mum was crying to me on one of our walks. Then she collapsed. She was rushed to hospital and was on a heart machine and went for tests. When she regained consciousness she told dad and I that she is broken because of my sister. Dad started crying as did I. I apologised for telling them but dad said he wanted to know.

My sister was out when all this happened. When I told her she initially panicked then said said , ‘oh she will be alright, she has fainted a lot over the years’. She didn’t seem concerned. She had planned to extend her trip a week.Dad and I were appalled at her lack of interest at the hospital when we visited. I had to tell her to give mum a hug and she even started talking about her mental health struggles whilst num was hooked up to all these machines.

When we got home dad and I were speaking privately about how we think the stress is the contributing factor. We said my sister had to speak to mum and open up as mum is so desperately worried. My sister overheard and started screaming at us that we blame her and she is going home. I tried to speak to her but she said she was having a panic attack and to leave her alone. I refused and said she needs to stay now mum is in hospital. I said to her I blame myself for telling my parents. I said the stress of her not speaking to mum is making her sick. I said she is selfish if she leaves now and doesn’t let mum in. Dad said to her that he loves her and to speak to mum. My sister said she will just lie to mum as she won’t stop seeing this guy as she won’t be responsible for him going to jail and she can help him and all that rubbish!

I visited mum in hospital and she said all tests are clear and it is stress that caused this! She was crying in the hospital bed and can’t understand why my sister can’t open up to her. Mum has helped her previously with different issues over the years, so have I.

What in earth do I do? I have told my sister she has to speak to mum. I said she needs to stay and do work from my parent’s place where we are all staying. I only have another week here as I have to return to the UK for my work. My sister needs to know that she is killing mum slowly and maybe my dad. We are beyond worried she is going back to this violent situation as this guy lives in the same street.

Sorry this post is so long.

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Wanderinghome · 15/08/2023 21:01

Firstly i hope your mum is recovering ok.

If you're sister has stated that she found your upbringing stifling and strict, then being told that she has to speak to her mum and tell her the most private details of her emotional and mental health may be triggering her again. Could you maybe try family therapy with a therapist who understands your sisters mental health so that she feels she has an advocate in the room. That might give her some reassurance to open up.

But at the end of the day she can't be forced to discuss her health. Maybe you could arrange some seperate therapy for your parents to help them process and accept the situation.

MuckyPlucky · 15/08/2023 21:10

This sounds bizarre & confusing, on all fronts. So you say she’s unkempt & self-neglecting, but is high up in finance? I can’t see how they marry up….How do her fellow senior corporate colleagues interpret her unkempt and chaotic presentation?

You mention potential bipolar disorder in passing. Has she been formally assessed and found to have this? Or is this just an interpretation of what is just generally chaotic, ill-advised life choices and/or interpersonal difficulties? I assume the latter. I say this as someone with personal experience of a bipolar diagnosis, and who finds it hard when people randomly attribute poor/erratic behaviour to “being a bit bipolar”.

Purplecatshopaholic · 15/08/2023 21:11

I hope your mum is recovering.
it’s clearly a tricky situation, but you can’t make your sister do anything - and if she has issues with your parents she may not want to. You probably need to try and take a step back or you may get ill yourself op.

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 15/08/2023 21:17

You are making your sister responsible for your mums health

Your sister is not responsible for her health. If your mum is stressing so much that she has put herself in the hospital (and by the sounds of it has done it before) your mum needs to take steps to get her own stress levels under control instead of expecting your sister to fix it.

Besides which your sister was opening up to your mum when they were in the hospital by talking about her mental health but that apparently was the wrong this to do. Feels like she can't do right for wrong.

Either way expecting a woman with her own health issues, who is in an abusive relationship to be responsible for fixing your mum is unrealistic

Polik · 15/08/2023 21:20

Your sister is not responsible for her Mums health or mental health.

BungleandGeorge · 15/08/2023 21:29

Your sister quite possibly can’t rather than won’t talk about this. I can understand it’s very difficult for your parents, but that’s the job of a parent, your mum needs to get some support to deal with the situation as it is. It’s not really fair to tell your mentally unwell sister that she’s ‘killing your parents’. If she was physically unwell and they were worried about her would you say the same?

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 15/08/2023 21:48

My sister needs to know that she is killing mum slowly and maybe my dad.

This is incredibly cruel and unfair to put on your sister.

She is the one on a crisis in an abusive relationship and suddenly she is expected to fix everyone else's issues?

Venu · 15/08/2023 21:52

She hasn’t been diagnosed so I shouldn’t do so. Apologies. I won’t be telling her she is killing mum. Mum has never had chest pains before but had fainted on and off through non stress related incidents.

It us confusing as she makes certain choices in her life and one of these choices is to stay in contact with this abuser. I have told her she needs to look after herself and obviously block him and calm the police. They are trying to help her as are her friends and me. This situation is affecting my mum and dad and myself. We are worrying 24/7. Counselling will help mum. Will suggest this.

I haven’t come out and blamed my sister. She recognises the stress she is causing and Intake responsibility for telling my parents initially as I thought we may have to travel there to support her.

As someone said, you can’t force her to speak to mum.

I am in the middle of this and probably should never have involved my parents. Just was so terrifying when she rang to say she nearly died.

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Ifeelsuchflutterings · 15/08/2023 21:58

It us confusing as she makes certain choices in her life and one of these choices is to stay in contact with this abuser.

That's common in abusive relationships. The person being abused can sometimes blame themselves for the other person's feeling, behaviours and reactions and so they stay because they think they are in the wrong not the abuser.

Given your sister is being expected to blame herself for your mother's stress based feelings, behaviours and reactions I can imagine why this may be a trap she could have fallen into.

You sound incredibly unaware of how difficult it is to leave an abusive relationship. You might be better trying to signpost her to professional help and support

Venu · 15/08/2023 22:11

She is going to a support group and an excellent counsellor she can relate to I have been there for her and helped her all her life. I am not in her head but I
love her and will always be there for her whenever she needs. I am just very emotional at the moment!

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Ifeelsuchflutterings · 15/08/2023 22:13

Venu · 15/08/2023 22:11

She is going to a support group and an excellent counsellor she can relate to I have been there for her and helped her all her life. I am not in her head but I
love her and will always be there for her whenever she needs. I am just very emotional at the moment!

Are the support group and counsellor where she is now or in your sisters home country?

Polik · 15/08/2023 22:20

Deal with your mum's health issues as they present, rather than assigning fault and blame for them.

I would imagine this means your mum needs
• to learn effective ways to manage stress
• to develop a lifestyle that promotes acceptance rather than worry
• to get adequate medical help for her current physical presentation
• to get adequate medical and/or psychological help for her current mental health issues

TheOutlaws · 15/08/2023 22:23

Your DSis needs to do the Freedom Programme, and read ‘Why Does He Do That?’.

https://freedomprogramme.co.uk/

https://ia800108.us.archive.org/30/items/LundyWhyDoesHeDoThat/Lundy_Why-does-he-do-that.pdf

I would also strongly suggest that she asks her GP for an autism and ADHD referral. This might give her insight into her struggles/vulnerabilities, and give her some scope for reasonable adjustment at work.

Your DM is not ill because of your DSis. Also agree with PP that your DM might benefit from some counselling to help her with this situation.

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