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To think there is no other way out and this is ok

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BlastedPimples · 20/05/2023 13:03

Getting divorced after a 19 year marriage.

I am a Sahm but worked on and off throughout marriage. No big career at all despite being educated to masters level. Also got lodgers in and did dog sitting to bring in money around the children. Was a sahm on good faith, agreement with stbx.

Stbx is violent, verbally and financially abusive. Also adulterous. Incredibly dishonest man. A really shit person. 4 Dcs don't want to see him. I certainly hope never to have to see him again.

So divorce has not gone through yet. He is being evasive over money and incomplete Form E. Clearly hiding how he's spent huge sums of money over the years. Clearly wants to leave me with very little. He will manage to do that because he's very sly and vindictive. Also I fully expect to be punished for not having worked regularly h throughout the marriage.

Those of you who say, "Well you were stupid enough not to have worked throughout marriage," please don't bother to post on this thread. Lecturing after an event is pretty pointless. You have no idea what it's like being in an abusive relationship. And comments like that do not help one bit.

So my youngest is 10. I have to find a job in my fifties. Fine fine but it'll be for pennies. I will spend the rest of my life scrabbling about for money. No home of my own. Mortgage free family home was sold off three years ago and that money has vanished. So how I will pay rent in my old age I have no idea.

I am full of fear and anxiety and it's relentless. It's like the darkness of my ex but for different reasons. My dcs have been struggling psychologically too but with a calm, steady home life with no dramas and help from psychologists, they seem to be learning that life doesn't have to be full of hysterics and trauma because of their father. They are getting through the mess.

However, I have now found great relief in thinking that when my 10 year old has graduated and established himself in a career, like my other dcs hopefully will have, I will simply and quietly kill myself. The escape from all this misery is so very appealing. I'd do it now if I could. There is no way out. How can I improve my lot in my fifties? I have no idea. No hope. No spirit left. No optimism. I am a Useless lump. And even if I weren't useless, I have found no employment door opening to me despite trying for six months.

I don't want to be a financial burden for the dcs or anyone in my sixties. I don't have anywhere near enough NI contributions for a pension. No home other than the rented house we live in now. I simply can't see a way out to make life okay again. If my dcs are all settled, with careers and maybe even married with kids of their own then my work is done.

This is not meant to be self pitying. I'm looking for a solution and if there is one less person that needs a financial solution then so much the better.

I don't live in the UK but divorce is being done in UK as that is where we married and where ex is living now. We want to stay in a different country to him to be safe.

I cannot see how I will survive and cannot bear the thought of being a homeless old lady.

I'm not even angry about having had all our financial security squandered by my ex. No energy for that. The dcs should have had a nice inheritance of a mortgage free big farmhouse to share between them but now they have nothing. Which is fine. Many people have nothing and start from scratch and the dcs are young with their whole lives ahead of them.

Antidepressants or therapy isn't the answer because this is the reality. And I actually feel ok about this way out.

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RedHelenB · 22/05/2023 16:25

BlastedPimples · 22/05/2023 14:48

There is no house. He sold it three years ago. And the money has evaporated

There is nothing left but debt. Debt that is now mine too.

It costs money to retrain. I won't even be able to take out a loan to cover that.

Are you in the UK? Because if the debt is in his name your not liable for it.

BlastedPimples · 22/05/2023 16:36

Debt is regarded as part of the family financial pot regardless of whose name it's in.

To think there is no other way out and this is ok
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BlastedPimples · 22/05/2023 16:36

And no, I didn't claim child benefit as stbx was earning well over the threshold.

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rockingbird · 22/05/2023 17:24

I just couldn't read and not offer you some support. I've walked away from my marriage after 12 years, just like you I'm deeply concerned about the debt my stbxh has and how liable I will also be for it all - like you I had no idea and gave up my career when the first dc was born to be a stay at home mother. A lot of what you have said resonates with my own situation however there was no violence just lots of control! I get how helpless your feeling right now and just wanted to say that you will get through it eventually and life is so worth living for the sake of your children. It's totally natural to be having such dark thoughts in such desperate times and you need to hold tight and ride them out. You've had some amazing support here and good advice. Brush up your CV and play to your strengths. You are made of strong stuff and with a positive mindset anything is possible. Much love xx

intothegreek · 22/05/2023 17:28

Although I was younger, it took me 18months in an NHS job taking every opportunity to learn and gain experience to get myself a good job. You've got at least 10 maybe 15 years left to work and pay into a pension. You've got high level qualifications so you'll climb the ladder quickly. Get out of this funk and aim for a new life, you can do it. And not just for your kids, live your own life too, it's wonderful out here when you get free of this abusive shit - I've done it! You can too

Malarandras · 22/05/2023 17:38

Couldn’t read without saying I feel for you OP. I was in a similar situation and I know how awful it can feel. I can’t offer much advice, I can just say that life can end up very different than what you imagined and often better, even if just now you can’t see it. Take care of yourself.

KimMumsnet · 22/05/2023 18:06

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PeterLemonJello · 22/05/2023 20:23

What is your master in @BlastedPimples ? Is it possible to try for employment in that field? I'm sorry I can't offer any solid advice. All I can say is you've got an outlet here to vent your frustrations and feelings and we'll listen which I hope helps in some small way.

BlastedPimples · 22/05/2023 21:09

Yes incredible support on here. Thank you.

I was thinking about retraining part time as a secondary school teacher. Not to teach in the UK but in EU.

It would take me two years to complete and I could work part time alongside training to get money in. Being a teacher at least I know the dcs and I would never starve. And being a secondary school teacher in EU is more palatable than in the UK right now.

However, I know stbx hates us being here. Wants us back in the UK near him. A prospect which worries me because he's prone to rages and violence. I just hope his relationship with his current gf lasts so his focus is somewhat taken away from us.

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PeterLemonJello · 22/05/2023 21:28

Hopefully in the circumstances he won't be able to force your return. I say go for the teacher training. What have you got to lose by trying and it could work well for you and your children.

BlastedPimples · 23/05/2023 12:17

I can't imagine how he can force our return. We came here for his job. He fucked that up but the dcs and I love it here.

He flounced off the UK after his suicide attempt and moved in with his gf in London.

Such a classy, elegant drama free guy. So glad he's not in our lives.

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BlastedPimples · 23/05/2023 13:39

@Gettingbysomehow may I ask what you and your aunt retrained in, please?

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PeterLemonJello · 23/05/2023 14:03

It's good that you are somewhere you all love and can hopefully get on with your lives without him. He sounds like a truly awful man and the fact his children don't want to see him speaks volumes.

Did you have to learn the language there or maybe you could already?

medianewbie · 23/05/2023 14:15

Watching this OP, hope you don't mind x

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 23/05/2023 18:07

medianewbie · 23/05/2023 14:15

Watching this OP, hope you don't mind x

Well that's an ominous message coming from that username.

If you are a journalist looking for a story, kindly fuck off.

medianewbie · 23/05/2023 19:04

I'm really not!
I'm a 55 y/o Carer who is in a fairly similar position. Having been identified on MN many years back (2014, iirc) I'd never dream of anything re the OP except to wish her well & be on the thread to see what wise advice she might get that I could apply to myself.

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