Church of England and suicide

[lady11]

If you commit suicide do you go to heaven?

Yes of course. That you don't is a very outdated view.

Why do you ask? The Samaritans are a brilliant resource if you need help. If it is a more general theological question then can you give a bit more detail? The CofE is a broad church but the doctrine commission pronounced that hell did not exist back in the 1990s so that is our official line.

If you are struggling please talk to someone.

But if you rephrase your question if you commit suicide can you go to heaven then the c of e would say yes. In a simplistic answer Anglicans believe it is how you life your life that is important rather than the way you die that determines if you go to heaven.

@lady11 are you okay? We are here if you want to talk.

Yes of course.

Thank you. I did talk to a friend about how I feel but it just made me feel worse. I've felt like this for the last 2 years now so I just accept that life is too painful for me and I need to get out. What is important to me now is knowing whether God will accept me in heaven at the time I finally have the guts to go.
As I say I accept my life as it is now. I carry on as normal - work, pay my bills on time until I can pluck up the courage

@lady11
PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR GP.
Honestly, I've been there and felt the same as you when my dd died. There is always someone who can help you.

It is not to do with what c0fe thinks, but what God says.
I could prob find where in the Bible I think the answer is no to your question, but I dont think that is the real point here.

The point is how you are feeling, and how you have been feeling.

I am happy for you to DM me, or whatever the phrase is on here. Or if you would rather, could you say why your life is too painful[I fully understand it can be that way for some]

Since you talk about the Church of England, is there a vicar you would be happy to speak to?

www.samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/

Please reach out to the Samaritans. Sending you much love xx

Hi @lady11 I am sorry to hear you are in so much pain and that it’s been going on for a while.

Please do contact one of the text or phone helplines available to talk about what you are going through. If you can see a way to get to a different future, where you can have more choices, you might be able to take some steps towards this. As others have said, your GP will also listen and help.

Hi lady11,

We're so sorry to hear how hard things are for you right now.

We'd like to share these links to our Mental Health resources. You can also go to the Samaritans website or email them on [email protected]. Support from other Mumsnetters is great and we really hope you will be able to take some comfort from your fellow posters, but as other MNers will tell you, it's really a good idea to seek real-life help and support as well.
NHS: Where to get urgent help for mental health
NHS: Looking after your mental health
MIND: Coping with mental health problems during coronavirus

CALM: The Campaign Against Living Miserably
NHS: Help for suicidal thoughts

Please do seek real life help from professionals as soon as you're able to.
We hope things look a lot brighter for you really soon.

For sure
My vicar believes it too.

Are you living alone, @lady11? Do you have anyone to talk to at home?

Call the Samaritans, or 999 they can help you, and go to church tomorrow, they have unconditional love, they can't help you medically but they can offer you a friendly ear

It's not really anything to do with how you die and/or what church you attend... all that matters is if you are a born again Christian - if you've accepted Christ as your Saviour and asked him to forgive your sins. that is the only way you will enter heaven no matter how you die.

I am so sorry you are feeling this way - there is help out there.

John 3:16
Peter 5:7

I hope you are ok OP.

The way you are feeling is temporary-go to the doctor show them this post and get some help. Your brain needs some help to enable you to not suffer like this and I am sorry you are in this place but this is not a permanent place-go asap and share with your doctor what you say here.

Hi lady11 thanks for sharing how you feel.
I was depressed for years and am not now so I know it doesn't have to stay like that. I recognise how low you are feeling and send you love. It's a painful place to be.
I hope you will feel able to contact the samaritans, just because talking to someone can be a release and help clarify things. Even if you end up talking to them every night for months, that's fine.
You will not feel this bad forever. I promise.
Are you actually a Christian? Would going to talk to someone like a vicar or a congregation member help?
I would also recommend talking to a doctor about how you are feeling.
Also could you afford private psychotherapy or counselling?
You are in unbearable pain right now and the depression is telling you this is how it will be forever. But it won't. The pain will end and you don't have to die. Please get help. And keep getting help until you feel better.