Friend having breakdown abroad with child.

[Peppapigforlife]

To cut a long story short, İ met a girl whilst travelling from the UK, who had her British daughter with her and had moved abroad alone.
From a mutual close friend of ours I've now learned she seems to be having some psychotic episodes and she is going from house to house, with no money, trying to get by, and also doing drugs when she is able to get some money. She wasn't like this when I knew her but i did suspect her to be a bit reckless.

My friend called the police over there but they said without her being registered (she's there illegally now) there's not much they can do. My friend is in a different area to the friend having the psychosis and doesn't know the address of where she is at the moment.
Would it be worth calling the UK social services to see if they can try and track down the woman? İ know her date of birth and the daughter's name and age, but that's all. I'm worried for her daughter, who is under ten.

Where is she now - UK or different country?

Are there any charities that could help?

Different country.

If the police said she's there illegally why are they not deporting her?

Because they don't know where she is.

Is it a European country?

If she's there illegally I doubt that she has a stable address to be tracked down to.

No she's not in Europe.

I would say the local British embassy should be informed.

@Lunde

If she's there illegally I doubt that she has a stable address to be tracked down to.

That's literally what I just said...

@Fere

I would say the local British embassy should be informed.

İ will try that, thank you.

Try consular services at the embassy but I doubt she is registered with them either

You could see whether charities such as the Red Cross have any sort of outreach programmes there. There are often charities that will help find urgent medical help for illegal immigrants but it's often country specific

Does the other friend have any kind of contact? Are there mental health services and would she be inclined to seek contact

Is she in a country where there are social services or police that could do a welfare check on her dd?

They've already done a welfare check with social services in that country at my friend's address, where she had been staying, but the woman had already left by then with her DD. We know the town she is in now but not the exact address.

She won't admit she is having psychosis, so she wouldn't attend any mental health services. There won't be any Red Cross stuff out there because it's a first world country.

I'm just wondering if UK social services would do anything to intervene.

UK social services wouldn't do anything because they are not living here. Social services operate according to English/Scottish/NI law...the services in the country she is living in will need to be involved.

If the daughter is a minor and british and at risk there should be someone able to do something but it seems unlikely if nobody knows where she is.

Is she in the USA? Could you contact child protection authorities in the relevant state, if so? They may not be able to find her to do a welfare check, but at least if she comes to the attention of the authorities, which sounds likely, given she has a child and no fixed abode, they would already be aware of your concerns.

What country is it?

do you know her origins in this country, where her parents are, or the child' father, or could you try to find them through facebook etc.
then you could alert them and they might be able to intervene as kin of the child.

I would contact the embassy. They will have more power in putting pressure on the police to find them. If you know what town she is in, and if anyone has a photo of her, then there's no reason why they couldn't find her. She is a risk to her daughter and she needs deporting back to the UK. That's two massive reasons to track them down.

I'm just wondering if UK social services would do anything to intervene.

Of course not. They do not have any jurisdiction to do anything outside UK. I'm sure they have enough on their plate in UK anyway.

They've already done a welfare check with social services in that country at my friend's address, where she had been staying, but the woman had already left by then with her DD.

It's very sad. I suspect social services in that country will sooner or later be onto the case, through police intervention/her registration there/schooling/doctor's registration or whatever.

The "1st world country" I live in you have to register at the local council where you live with your ID. Otherwise you are an illegal immigrant, could be her though. But with a child it's barely possible to live like that. A mother with psychosis who has a child will very soon be picked up on, legally living there or not.

I hope it all works out for them. You are a good friend.

Please keep us updated. I already feel for both of them.

İ did try looking for the dad on Facebook with his name and city and there are so many of that name but I tried contacting a few, anyway, but no luck.

I'll contact the consulate on Monday.

Report as much as you can to consulate on Monday. They will have good relationship with Police locally. They can do quite a lot by contacting the right people, esp. if the child is involved and she is known to the SS there.

Which Country is it? Without saying that you won't get much meangingful help other than contact the Embassy who are unlikely to go and track someone down unless a close relative makes a missing person's report.

Is the child a UK Citizen?

Whatever country she is in- call consulate. Call round friends who MIGHT once upon a time had her passport details. Report this immediately. Go onto the Facebook page or whatever place she is in- there will likelt be one for ex- pats. Spread the word in the community she is in. SS here will do jack.