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PTSD and GERD/severe indegestion

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Imtryingveryhard · 04/09/2021 02:29

Hi everyone, since early 2020 when a traumatic incident occurred to me, I have been sick more or less everyday. I lost almost a stone in weight in 3 weeks due to not eating/being sick and this continued until around October/November when the sickness increased to about 5/6 times per day. I just put it down to the stress and anxiety in having to deal with what happened but now I am literally sick as soon as I eat. I have had a quick google before consulting my GP and from what I have read this seems to tie in with what I am experiencing. Has anyone else had this? I feel a bit silly linking the two as I have never come across this before but it does feel to tie in with my trauma/symptoms and PTSD diagnosis. Many thanks

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KintsugiCat · 04/09/2021 02:50

Look into role of the vagal nerve.

TheWashingMachine · 04/09/2021 03:22

Be careful you aren't getting an ulcer.
I suffer from GERD, appalling anxiety and insomnia. I find omeprazole from the GP and always lying on my left at night make a huge difference.

Imtryingveryhard · 04/09/2021 03:35

Thank you both. Yesterday/last night in particular was awful, my throat and chest are very sore and I’m struggling to swallow. I’ve just had some mango as I was starving and couldn’t sleep. I’ll see how I go with that and whether I can keep it down. I’ll also have a look at the vagal nerve and what signs I should look out for with an ulcer. If I can make changes now to help I will!

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rainbowninja · 04/09/2021 17:03

Hi @Imtryingveryhard, I'm studying functional nutrition at the moment and just wanted to say that your instinct is correct and they are definitely linked. It's the gut brain connection. There is a constant flow of communication between the gut (the small intestine) and the brain via the vagus nerve. Stress can cause all sorts of havoc with your digestive system.

I was diagnosed with CPTSD last year and then found out I had nutritional deficiencies and poor gut health which were making the situation worse. I hope you get some help with it, have you noticed any particular foods trigger it?

Imtryingveryhard · 04/09/2021 18:16

Hi @rainbowninja, thank you! it seems to be anything that can trigger it but last night was particularly bad. I am worried as the last few times I was sick I am 99% certain there was blood in it which has never happened before and it frightened me. I think it was because I had been so sick, nothing anything more sinister, and I’ve managed to not be sick today. I have mentioned it to my GP several times before but they didn’t seem concerned. I have BUPA cover so I might speak to one of their GP’s. I had a CBT session on Weds and then started the follow up work yesterday which I think triggered it. I didn’t get to sleep until gone 5am this morning and then was up at 8.30am so I’m exhausted now. Fingers crossed I’m not sick later on.

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Arabelladrinkstea · 04/09/2021 18:23

I had this after a car accident for around 4 yrs which then developed into Bulimia.
I dealt with the PTSD, mainly through spiritual and holistic healing but also some CBT and counselling too.
The more I healed the less it happened until eventually I realised I hadn’t been sick for months, now it’s been years Flowers

Imtryingveryhard · 04/09/2021 18:44

Oh gosh, my trauma was an RTA too. I’m so sorry, it’s awful to have to go through. It’s been particularly awful as I also work in the RTA industry too. I’m so glad I posted this as I thought I was going mad linking the two. What spiritual and holistic healing did you source if you don’t mind me asking? I’m on course 3 of CBT and have counselling in the back ground but don’t know what else to do to help myself. My current therapist is just lovely. She started the 1st course but we had to stop due to lockdown. I haven’t told her about my sickness but I will make sure i do and see what she says. It’s so strange. I’m acting like I’m bulimic but I’m not. The sickness relieved the pressure/discomfort/bloating I feel but leaves me exhausted physically due to actually being sick so much and then not having the energy to carry me through the day. I’ve got myself into a a right mess haven’t I :(

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KintsugiCat · 04/09/2021 18:49

Couple of quick vagal reset techniques to give temporary relief are:

Fill mouth with warm liquid and let your to give float
Fill a basin with very cold water, plunge your face in and hold it there for as long as you can hold your breath

Imtryingveryhard · 04/09/2021 19:26

Thank you @KintsugiCat. I researched your suggestion this morning and it was very, very interesting. I saw the tips re the cold water and also deep breathing. I’ll try the warm water tip with my morning cup of tea when I feel sick most often. I was honestly normal until early last year! My accident has knocked me sideways and I just can’t seem to get over it. Outwardly I’m
Functioning, but internally and privately I’m
Not. Even my husband doesn’t know about the extent of my sickness but I had to tell him about the blood last night as I was frightened. Thank you all for your tips and and insight. I will have a good read about everything over the next few days but if anyone has any further experience please comment as this is all new to me. I’m heartened that @Arabelladrinkstea got through this though, I want to as well. It’s just awful feeling so bad every day.

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KintsugiCat · 04/09/2021 20:12

Glad it helped @Imtryingveryhard. Just noticed my typo- it should say “let your tongue float”.

I totally get what you mean about outwardly functioning but not inwardly.

Imtryingveryhard · 04/09/2021 20:44

@KintsugiCat I worked it out :). I just feel I have a husband, children, job, responsibilities etc that I can’t let down but I just want someone to see what I’m going through, truly and honestly with nothing held back, and help me get over this. A big factor you have all inadvertently raised is ‘me’ time to relieve the symptoms. I can definitely sort this as my husband is just the loveliest person I know and he will let me do this in what ever way I need to. After last nights rubbish non-sleep he has sent me to bed with the kids being kept down stairs so they don’t disturb me. He is very worried but I have managed not to be sick today so good progress! We both work at home so he can support me a lot.

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rainbowninja · 04/09/2021 21:03

@Imtryingveryhard I would definitely recommend looking for a functional
nutritionist or functional nutrition counsellor if you're considering treatment options. It sounds like you need a holistic approach that looks at the GERD/anxiety and insomnia together because they are all connected.

It's very hard to do CBT type therapy when you haven't got the basics like sleep and digestion working in your favour.

The vagus nerve exercises as mentioned by a previous poster sound good too.

Imtryingveryhard · 04/09/2021 21:32

Insomnia is a huge issue too. Last night was a rarity as I usually sleep until 2/3am and then fall into an exhausted sleep at 5/6am which is when awful accident related nightmares happen. Generally I can fall asleep easily but can’t stay asleep. It’s been flagged as a hot spot to action. I had no idea this was all connected and just knowing I can seek help is promising. I am so glad I posted about this and I’m reassured by everyone’s input. All hugely appreciated.

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KintsugiCat · 04/09/2021 21:54

My experience is that things went well when I asked my partner for space and support to seek help.

When I was very open with them in detail about what I was going through it was very traumatising for them. They love and care for me very much and they felt my pain empathetically very directly. And it pained me to see that pain int WHM and we went round in circles a bit.

So some times finding an outlet for the trauma outwith your close relationship can be very helpful as that allows the trauma to drain out of your environs rather than ricochet round it.

So I have found various types of therapeutic support helpful.

Firstly, physical and movement based therapies. In particular I found TRE helpful. There is also a book called “Waking the Tiger” by Peter Levine that was very helpful. Equally, the website of Pete Walker and his books is just amazing. They are geared towards C-PTSD rather than PTSD but the advice on managing flashback/panic attacks is invaluable.

I also found massage helpful and particularly a technique called visceral manipulation (Google the Barral Institute for practitioners).

Talk therapies can be helpful. I would agree that it is best to avoid CBT as it can be retraumatising. I would also sound a note of caution- the therapeutic relationship is key. You have to be absolutely comfortable with the person you are talking to. Be aware that a lot of EMDR practitioners also have a CBT background

Sadly I tried the functional nutrition route and it set me back over a year I’d say. Focussed too much on symptom management and not enough on the underlying causes. It may have been the particular practitioner of course but I would read very carefully in that arena.

Some of the most useful things for me have been peer to peer. That is where you get that feeling of being absolutely able to be totally open about your experiences and find straight up understanding. Support groups are one source of that.

Another source of that is a pretty amazing community of people on Tik tok all trying to heal from trauma and sharing their experiences.

Trauma tok is full of people freely sharing what has and hasn’t worked for them. Mostly it is people genuinely sharing their experiences and wanting to help others without no expectation of financial return. It’s a blend of science based and spiritually based things and it has been amazingly helpful to me.

You do have to balance discernment and an open mind to get something from that, but it’s very easy to scroll down if you come across something that strikes an off note with you.

Incidentally my trauma started to really improve when instead of trying to avoid or control symptoms I embraced them and sat with the feelings that were coming up and traced and integrated them into my experience.

WWhen we experience trauma our minds store memories differently than usual memories. Literally in different parts of the brain. That’s why things like smells or sounds or textures or times of day can spark something in us.

Those sense experiences literally connect to parts of the traumatic memory that have been stored in different centres of the brain.

If when those feeling come up you relax into them and trace backtrack o where they are coming from, what is happening is you are building neural pathways to those fragmented memories and integrating them into your conscious experience. You are recovering things your mind hid from you at the time.

You mentioned both that you had a road traffic accident and that you are most likely to feel sick in the morning. It can be very illuminating to try to understand the patterns and the connections to the triggers.

So how I would handle that is to next time I felt like that, I would sit with myself, do deep breathing and gently try to guide myself to understanding the connection there.

So it might be something like the accident was in the morning. Or it might be that you associate getting ready in the morning with them going to drive or be driven somewhere or cross roads etc whilst a pedestrian. Or it might be that there was a cup of tea in the cup holder in the car when you had your accident. Something like that.

The important thing is not to force yourself to remember. Be gentle with yourself. A mild amount of discomfort that you can reassure or calm yourself through is ok, distress is not.

Arabelladrinkstea · 04/09/2021 23:08

You can get through this - we never know how strong we are until we have to.
Just keep making adjustments every day, keep going within and keep loving yourself Flowers

Imtryingveryhard · 05/09/2021 09:47

Thank you, everything you are all saying is making perfect sense and ties in with what I have been experiencing. I still feel like I’m detached from everything and constantly think about the accident which isn’t healthy. I wish I could erase it from my brain but it’s not as easy as the unfortunately. I managed not to be sick yesterday which was great, but that may be tied in with realising what’s causing it after all your helpful advice. Now I know what it is I can get some help and keep a diary to look at triggers etc. Really appreciate all your input, it’s been incredibly enlightening.

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Imtryingveryhard · 06/09/2021 17:54

Just a quick update that I spoke to THE nicest GP at our surgery today. I messaged ask my gp at around 8am and had a call at 10.30am. She was so lovely and supportive, had clearly read my notes beforehand and was more than happy to help. I’ve had some medication prescribed with a follow up in a few weeks. She agreed I had probably just burst a blood vessel rather than anything more sinister, and when I explained what I thought had triggered it she completely agreed as well. I’m so glad I posted for help on here as I was worried. I think I’ve got a long way to go to get back to my pre accident state but at least I’m moving in the right direction. I’ll report it all back to my therapist as I did g think to mention it beforehand. I’d just got used to it as normal, when quite clearly it wasn’t.

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rainbowninja · 07/09/2021 16:58

Glad to hear you had a positive conversation with the GP @Imtryingveryhard

I hope you get on ok with the meds, keep us posted!

Imtryingveryhard · 13/09/2021 19:54

Just an update, the prescribed meds seem to be working ok. I’m still being sick but not as much and my other symptoms seem to have reduced which is great. I still have a lot of psych issues to resolve but this is a great step in the right direction. I’ve also had a few really good nights sleep which I desperately needed. I’m trying to eat much better to heal myself but it’s just so helpful knowing what is wrong. Hopefully I can reverse the GERD symptoms and get back to where I was pre- RTA.

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rainbowninja · 14/09/2021 19:54

Good to hear from you @Imtryingveryhard!

It also just occurred to me and apologies if this has already been mentioned but looking up gut healing foods/recipes would be good for you too x

Imtryingveryhard · 18/09/2021 11:25

Yes! I have been eating more nourishing foods to help. I’ve joined a few helpful FB groups and a lot of my symptoms have calmed down, but not abated yet. It will just take time to sort out meds/doseage alongside my PTSD but I’m feel quite positive which is good :)

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rainbowninja · 18/09/2021 14:16

Oh that's good @Imtryingveryhard and I was only reading this morning that when we are stressed our digestion shuts down, it makes sense doesn't it? I also use a gut journal (🙈😂) to record what I've eaten and what supplements I've taken to help me track what does/doesn't help.

Imtryingveryhard · 20/09/2021 07:11

That’s a great idea too! I’m trying to eat lots of veggies and soft fruits. I’ve really enjoyed roasted pumpkin and cottage cheese for breakfast, and yoghurt with berries too. I’ve managed a few days without being sick so this, along with the meds, therapy and self care is obviously helping. I’ve a tough day today as I potentially have to travel as a passenger in a car this afternoon, but looking at ways to walk/get around this if I can. I have a meds review next week so if will be interesting to see what is said. I can’t believe I’ve been so ill for 18 months and within 2 weeks on omeprozole I feel so much better. Really appreciate everyone’s input on here :)

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rainbowninja · 25/09/2021 21:56

That's really good to hear @Imtryingveryhard let us know how you get on with the medication review 👍🏻

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